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    Oblit's Avatar
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    Oblit Sarabi
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmaelle View Post
    Could anyone notify what the current BiS is for Monks, including Extremes gear, pretty please ? thanks in advance
    I have a couple of gear sets that I use for different contents. Here are the gear sets I currently have and proposed BiS in parethesis.

    For contents outside of Coil:
    Allagan Baghnakhs
    Allagan Visor of Striking
    Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
    Allagan Trousers of Striking
    Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    Allagan Choker of Striking
    Tremor Earring of Striking
    Hero's Bracelet of Slaying (Allagan Bracelets of Maiming)
    Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Vortex Ring of Striking (Hero's Ring of Slaying)


    For Coil:
    Allagan Baghnakhs
    Allagan Visor of Striking
    Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
    Melee Gaskins
    Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    Allagan Choker of Maiming
    Allagan Earring of Maiming
    Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
    Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Vortex Ring of Striking (Allagan Ring of Striking)



    My proposed BiS for Coil only has 469 accuracy but I parsed T5 for over 50 hours and have never missed with 464 accuracy. If I want to add more accuracy I have Inferno Bangles of Striking for +5 extra accuracy or I can get a Melee Circlet. I want to believe 464 accuracy is not capped for T1-T5 but I just haven't seen a single miss. I've only seen misses when I forgot to switch from my town gear (410ish accuracy).

    I've seen recent posts saying that Melee Cyclas and Melee Gloves are better than their Allagan counterparts becuase Cyclas has more accuracy and Gloves has 4 more Determination but I am not a fan of too much Skill Speed at a cost of other (more useful) secondary stats.
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    Vandesaan's Avatar
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    Vandes Aan
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    Dragoon Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Oblit View Post
    I have a couple of gear sets that I use for different contents. Here are the gear sets I currently have and proposed BiS in parethesis.

    For contents outside of Coil:
    Allagan Baghnakhs
    Allagan Visor of Striking
    Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
    Allagan Trousers of Striking
    Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    Allagan Choker of Striking
    Tremor Earring of Striking
    Hero's Bracelet of Slaying (Allagan Bracelets of Maiming)
    Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Vortex Ring of Striking (Hero's Ring of Slaying)


    For Coil:
    Allagan Baghnakhs
    Allagan Visor of Striking
    Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
    Melee Gaskins
    Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    Allagan Choker of Maiming
    Allagan Earring of Maiming
    Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
    Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Vortex Ring of Striking (Allagan Ring of Striking)



    My proposed BiS for Coil only has 469 accuracy but I parsed T5 for over 50 hours and have never missed with 464 accuracy. If I want to add more accuracy I have Inferno Bangles of Striking for +5 extra accuracy or I can get a Melee Circlet. I want to believe 464 accuracy is not capped for T1-T5 but I just haven't seen a single miss. I've only seen misses when I forgot to switch from my town gear (410ish accuracy).

    I've seen recent posts saying that Melee Cyclas and Melee Gloves are better than their Allagan counterparts becuase Cyclas has more accuracy and Gloves has 4 more Determination but I am not a fan of too much Skill Speed at a cost of other (more useful) secondary stats.
    What is your reasoning behind stacking Determination to this extent? Depending on your stats, 6 to 8 points of determination will MAYBE add ONE (1) damage to a 150 potency attack. The way itemization then works, that is the equivalent of 11 or 16 critical hit rate or skill speed, which nets way larger gains, upwards of 1% to 2% increase over time compared to a single digit more of damage with not even close to 1% increase compared. There's almost no skill speed, sub-500 crit and above 250 determination?! I don't understand your thinking behind this.

    I propose this to maximize DPS throughput, while gaining the needed accuracy through food, so gear can be used in any fight;

    Allagan Baghnaks
    Melee Circlet
    Melee Cyclas
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking
    Allagan Trousers of Striking
    Melee Boots
    Hero's Necklace of Slaying
    Allagan Earrings of Striking
    Allagan Bracelets of Striking
    Allagan Ring of Striking
    Vortex Ring of Striking

    This gives:
    439 accuracy (460 with HQ Stuffed Cabbage)
    530 Critical Hit Rate (539 with HQ Stuffed Cabbage)
    240 Determination
    453 Skill Speed

    This allows for roughly 4.5 minutes of continued damage while maintaining ~400 DPS, no Fracture involved. No phases in any fight in this game with sufficient good DPS requires you to non-stop be hitting buttons for anything longer than 4.5 minutes without having to avoid damage. For fights where you have to avoid damage you can keeps this going into infinity as you will get free ticks of 60 TP without using it up.
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