The Monk Temple

[Vies]

It's been a couple weeks since I leveled MRD for skills, so my memory could be fuzzy(not using it on mnk currently), but I don't remember it having a damage penalty.

[cfStatic]

There's no penalty for using Bloodbath, or if there is, it's not immediately obvious - nothing on the tooltip.


Misposted in one of the other monk threads so reposting here for greater exposure: I haven't gotten the chance to run with a bard yet - and my SCH friend is always on healing duty, so no Selene. What kind of GCD are we looking at when they use their skill speed buffs? Does GL stack additively with the BRD/SCH buffs? How low can you get the GCD before you start hitting the animation wall?

[Riot55]

So what do you guys think? Should I be going for trying to get HQ Gryphonskin armor over Darklight? Darklight is cheaper overall tome-wise for sure, but I have 1.5 mil with nothing to spend it on (besides waiting for housing I guess...), and can probably afford to get nearly a full set of this stuff. Are the HQ Gryphonskin stats better or on par with Darklight? I know Gryphonskin has 2 materia slots and some overmelding possibilities so potentially add in an extra 15-20 Crit/Determination/Skill Speed per piece, so I'm curious about you guys' opinions. Does anybody have an HQ set of Gryphonskin with any comments? Or is it not even nearly worth the amount of money/tomes it costs?

[Powercow]

HQ gryphonskin is better than Darklight.

[Xell]

So what do you guys think? Should I be going for trying to get HQ Gryphonskin armor over Darklight?

How badly do you want to beat turn 5? Nothing up to turn 5 is so harsh that darklight isn't more than enough for DPS. Turn 5 appears to be the only content that you really have to squeeze out every possible point. If you really want to spend that money, it will certainly help purchasing some HQ gryphon with high level materia, to fill in the gaps of ilvl 90 gear you don't have. Unfortunately it's a bit RNG in that if you get that same ilvl 90 piece next week..you probably just wasted a ton of money. So if you aren't even up to turn 5 yet or aren't concerned with world/server first, I wouldn't bother.

[Riot55]

So I guess my question would be is it worth all the money/effort to craft it? Or is it handedly beaten by relic gear/raid drops? It's hard for me to do comparisons because I can't really see the HQ stats especially with materia in to compare.

edit: posted after you posted about that. Still interested in it but yeah it might be a bit too high of an investment considering it's not going to last THAT long, huh? Is Relic stuff all better than it for sure? I only have a couple Darklight pieces and just didn't know if it's worth to skip it or suit up in that. I have a couple animal fats, what is the best piece to make stat value wise above a Darklight equivalent?

[Almalexia]

How low can you get the GCD before you start hitting the animation wall?

With SCH haste and GL3 I can reach 1.94 GCD (no food). There is no "animation wall." Skills done in sequence will interrupt the previous skill's animation; the only "wall" we have to worry about is a 0.5s delay between all skills.

So I guess the technical answer to your question would be 0.49 GCD.

SCH haste will display the change to your Skill Speed in the character window. I've never measured the difference myself, but it should be easy enough to calculate.

[Xell]

@Riot
All the math I've seen claims primary stats(str) far out-weighs the others. There is no way HQ ilvls can compete with ilvl90s in str. Throw in the fact that the Vit and def stats will be lower for the ilvl70s, it's hard to justify going with the 70s. Then again the only time def really matters is turn 5 and even that can technically probably be done in 70s. If you're intent on getting a piece a ring might be the best. You aren't sacrificing any def that way. Otherwise, I've heard chest and pants offer the most benefit from materia, but I haven't done any testing on that myself. All in all, if I was legacy or had 10 mil laying around, yes I would fill in the gaps of my 90 gear with crafted. With only 1 mil, I'm not quite willing to do it until it becomes cheaper. Also worth noting that if your group runs double monk(hard saying that with a straight face) it will take significantly longer to get your full 90 set, so it would probably be worth it to get alternating crafted gear.

[JokingCat]

so using dots will incrase your dps? i feel like its a waste of time on trash mobs, maybe dots are good for long fights but lets say you only use demolish on titan how much dps will you lose ? also fracture over ToD or both?

also a question if you start your rotation do do you use your dots at the beginning or when you have 3 stacks of gl?

[Riichi]

If I'm at 2 stacks of GL and I use demolish, will I gain the 3rd stack of GL before the demolish DoT applies for max DoT damage?