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Thread: The Monk Temple

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    There's still some RNG depending on exactly how Titan transitions- snip
    There is no RNG on transitions other than who's going to get targeted with Gaol, Landslide or Plumes. Phase transitions are base on his HP percentages, but a lot of times even if he dips below the HP% threshold he will still use and finish his move if you don't push him towards the next phase after a certain amount of time has passed from his last move. I hope that makes sense.

    For example, if you don't get him below 55% within 5 seconds(this number is an estimate, I just know how long it takes) after the bombs explodes, he will use Gaol before he jumps. For the first jump, you either have to delay your skill a fraction of a second while he is performing the landslide if you know he dips below the HP% for him to jump up for the next phase. Or you can just run to the center right away so you can hit him with your next skill without waiting for him to run back to the tank. If you time it perfectly, you can even stand on the very edge and Shoulder Tackle to him before performaing the next GCD skill.
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    Last edited by Oblit; 01-25-2014 at 12:35 AM. Reason: Added Shoulder Tackle thing

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    You're nitpicking the term RNG.

    There is a randomness factor between fights and between groups on exactly when, during which mechanic, Titan actually goes invuln and jumps.

    I've had transitions where Titan literally doesn't jump and just teleports to the middle. I've had transitions where Titan almost does his last action mechanic twice while invulnerable, making the transition last an excessively long time. I've had transitions where he goes invuln for like >5 seconds while finishing whatever he was doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    You're nitpicking the term RNG.

    There is a randomness factor between fights and between groups on exactly when, during which mechanic, Titan actually goes invuln and jumps.
    Oblit is correct. He's not nitpicking the term RNG. It stands for "Random Number Generator". Phase transitions and Titan jumping is 100% completely predetermined. There is absolutely nothing "Random" about it.

    The term "RNG" is often used in place of the word "Variance". It is a misnomer. Variance and RNG are completely different things and it's important not to confuse the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bokchoykn View Post
    Oblit is correct. He's not nitpicking the term RNG. It stands for "Random Number Generator". Phase transitions and Titan jumping is 100% completely predetermined. There is absolutely nothing "Random" about it.

    The term "RNG" is often used in place of the word "Variance". It is a misnomer. Variance and RNG are completely different things and it's important not to confuse the two.
    And when was the last time you heard anyone say "Variance"? I sure know I never have in regards to a mmo. RNG is a common place term used for a number of things, you guys are just trying to to "nitpick" the term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traison View Post
    And when was the last time you heard anyone say "Variance"? I sure know I never have in regards to a mmo. RNG is a common place term used for a number of things, you guys are just trying to to "nitpick" the term.
    Or just say Random? The word is already in there. Whats the point of saying 'Number Generator'?

    You could argue that there is some RNG involved in the dps numbers which can lead to titan not always transitioning phases at the same points *gasp*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megido View Post
    Or just say Random? The word is already in there. Whats the point of saying 'Number Generator'?

    You could argue that there is some RNG involved in the dps numbers which can lead to titan not always transitioning phases at the same points *gasp*
    RNG is a common place phrase in regard of video games. You can use any word you want, if you wish, however it does not change the fact that if someone says RNG, you know what they are talking about. You can argue that RNG is simpler to say than "Random".
    RNG is pretty much a meme now a days, you may not like it, but it is, and it represents randomness in a lot of different forms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Traison View Post
    RNG is a common place phrase in regard of video games. You can use any word you want, if you wish, however it does not change the fact that if someone says RNG, you know what they are talking about. You can argue that RNG is simpler to say than "Random".
    Not really. When someone says "RNG" I think of something completely random that no one can do anything about.
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    I recently discovered the awesomness that is the monk. I'm having a blast so far!
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    Yeah it's an awesome job. I can't wait for the expansion pack with the level cap increase and new ability. I hope we get our awesome asuran fist ws. It's a job that's is very rewarding from start to finish. I just need to work on on my marauder so I can unlock Mercy Stroke. I'd like to have another off gcd.
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    Unlikely to see any videos of people not dropping GL. "I never lose GL" translates roughly into "Sometimes I get lucky and don't lose it during some transitions."

    As Easymode said there are far to much random crap going on for it to be anywhere near 100%. Those people are liars or don't know they are losing it.
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