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  1. #1471
    Player Rochetm's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    You could have stopped right there.


    But you kept going anyway.
    Wow you are a both a dbag and ignorant of how t2 works. Once you start you can't change gear... Next time I will tell my group to bad we have to wipe so I can go back and change my gear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Wow you are a both a dbag and ignorant of how t2 works. Once you start you can't change gear... Next time I will tell my group to bad we have to wipe so I can go back and change my gear.
    I wasn't being ignorant or a dbag. When you start off a post with "I wasn't paying attention to things going on in my raid" and then follow it up with a statement about stats it's worthless. If you weren't paying attention how do you know you didn't hit the boss from the front when it was turning for an attack or in an animation? Did you read the log correctly or have a parser to verify your miss or did the log eat the attack it still actually connect in the parse?

    Don't start your post like that. It doesn't support anything you say afterward.
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    My life while tanking is an existential hell from which there is no escape.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instrumentality View Post
    Don't start your post like that. It doesn't support anything you say afterward.
    He was clearly only implying that he didn't realize he went in with a lower accuracy set and then realized after the fact.
    It's a turn of phrase, not "I was completely spaced out the whole time". He only implied that he paid no attention to the gear he had on, then he gives an exact figure of accuracy.
    It's not hard to add up unless you're looking to insult someone.
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  4. #1474
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rochetm View Post
    Tonight I wasn't paying attention to what gear I had on in t2 I missed ADS from flank at 465 accuracy.
    Are you positive it was from the flank? ADS does a metric shitton of turning for spellcasts, and the object on screen is .5-1.0s delayed from its actual direction.
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    Kind of off topic but while we are talking about direction and positional requirement. My static doesn't do T5 but I have beaten Twintania a few times with different PUGs, each group positions Twintania differently during Conflag phase. I've done my research and found that Conflags always face cardinal South, It try to position myself to perform rear attacks assuming Conflags are facing south but I don't always get the same results.

    It's annoying becuase it gimps my DPS and I'm sure the PUG watches my DPS, which is still good regardless. My highest DPS before Dive-Bombs phase was 377 (before Allagan Weapon). I can't even beat that now with a better weapon and gear because I can't seem to find the rear.
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    Tell them to stop positioning Twintania bad.

    The tanking position for Twintania during conflag phase should match the conflag direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oblit View Post
    I have a couple of gear sets that I use for different contents. Here are the gear sets I currently have and proposed BiS in parethesis.

    For contents outside of Coil:
    Allagan Baghnakhs
    Allagan Visor of Striking
    Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
    Allagan Trousers of Striking
    Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    Allagan Choker of Striking
    Tremor Earring of Striking
    Hero's Bracelet of Slaying (Allagan Bracelets of Maiming)
    Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Vortex Ring of Striking (Hero's Ring of Slaying)


    For Coil:
    Allagan Baghnakhs
    Allagan Visor of Striking
    Allagan Cuirass of Striking
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
    Melee Gaskins
    Allagan Sollerets of Striking
    Allagan Choker of Maiming
    Allagan Earring of Maiming
    Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
    Allagan Ring of Maiming
    Vortex Ring of Striking (Allagan Ring of Striking)



    My proposed BiS for Coil only has 469 accuracy but I parsed T5 for over 50 hours and have never missed with 464 accuracy. If I want to add more accuracy I have Inferno Bangles of Striking for +5 extra accuracy or I can get a Melee Circlet. I want to believe 464 accuracy is not capped for T1-T5 but I just haven't seen a single miss. I've only seen misses when I forgot to switch from my town gear (410ish accuracy).

    I've seen recent posts saying that Melee Cyclas and Melee Gloves are better than their Allagan counterparts becuase Cyclas has more accuracy and Gloves has 4 more Determination but I am not a fan of too much Skill Speed at a cost of other (more useful) secondary stats.
    What is your reasoning behind stacking Determination to this extent? Depending on your stats, 6 to 8 points of determination will MAYBE add ONE (1) damage to a 150 potency attack. The way itemization then works, that is the equivalent of 11 or 16 critical hit rate or skill speed, which nets way larger gains, upwards of 1% to 2% increase over time compared to a single digit more of damage with not even close to 1% increase compared. There's almost no skill speed, sub-500 crit and above 250 determination?! I don't understand your thinking behind this.

    I propose this to maximize DPS throughput, while gaining the needed accuracy through food, so gear can be used in any fight;

    Allagan Baghnaks
    Melee Circlet
    Melee Cyclas
    Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
    Hero's Belt of Striking
    Allagan Trousers of Striking
    Melee Boots
    Hero's Necklace of Slaying
    Allagan Earrings of Striking
    Allagan Bracelets of Striking
    Allagan Ring of Striking
    Vortex Ring of Striking

    This gives:
    439 accuracy (460 with HQ Stuffed Cabbage)
    530 Critical Hit Rate (539 with HQ Stuffed Cabbage)
    240 Determination
    453 Skill Speed

    This allows for roughly 4.5 minutes of continued damage while maintaining ~400 DPS, no Fracture involved. No phases in any fight in this game with sufficient good DPS requires you to non-stop be hitting buttons for anything longer than 4.5 minutes without having to avoid damage. For fights where you have to avoid damage you can keeps this going into infinity as you will get free ticks of 60 TP without using it up.
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  8. #1478
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    Determination is the best secondary stat until we hit i120 gear levels or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasymodeX View Post
    Determination is the best secondary stat until we hit i120 gear levels or so.
    I'd really love to know where you're getting this arbitrary item level and conviction from? Have you tried increasing your det varied amounts and then seeing the difference over 100+ hits opposed what you had before switching it around, while maintaining the same weapon and same attack potency? You will quickly see the difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vandesaan View Post
    I'd really love to know where you're getting this arbitrary item level and conviction from?
    The other thread that I made about damage.

    Have you tried increasing your det varied amounts and then seeing the difference over 100+ hits opposed what you had before switching it around, while maintaining the same weapon and same attack potency?
    A couple times.

    FWIW you don't need >100 hits unless you get bad luck.

    You will quickly see the difference.
    That's the idea ...
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    Last edited by EasymodeX; 02-01-2014 at 12:29 AM.

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