So which is it Yoshi?

[Zezlar]

I guess it really is wrong of them to think people want to do something challenging for the sake of it challenging. There must always be a better reward for it (different is not enough). Gamers are in such a sad state. For the "fun" of something in a video game isn't enough, it must also provide actual reward that meets a random individuals satisfaction... haaa... I feel like I'm violating something serious for doing something because I want to, not because I feel I need to.

You're argument falls flat. I love challenging content, and i'll put all my effort into beating it. The problem arises once it's beaten. I'm not going to do it a second time for the sake of doing it again.