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  1. #451
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    Chaosprime Zero
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    Odin
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    Pugilist Lv 70
    Honestly coming from Xi i have a different view of BRD. They should have far more team buffing skills. Victory March (haste), Madrigal (att up), Minne (def up), Minuet (acc up) to name but a few. they should also be able to cast more than 1 song and it should be a AoE so all members get it and not be a self spell and have people within range of BRD. BRD for the most part acts like a RNG with BRD esque skills tacked on. Should BRD ever return to a proper support class like it should be, ill happily start playing BRD. Like many jobs in this game BRD simply was not thought out before implementation. Especially considering the previous installment on 1.0 and XI were just better for BRD. making BRD a full DPS with minor support abilities is silly. And yes they should have far more support abilities at the expense of DPS, i mean since when has a BRD allowed DPS to take priority over support? Really hope SE fix this. If they do, ill be the first to start playing BRD ^^;
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    Mystical Kobi
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by KaosPrimeZero View Post
    Really hope SE fix this. If they do, ill be the first to start playing BRD ^^;
    There is no place in this game for what youre asking for. Absolutely no place for a full support class. Change the game first, then we can talk
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  3. #453
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    Marzapan Kat
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    I just beat Garuda HM, so I'm no expert on Coil.

    Coil is the last part of End Game, now... will it be when 2.2 hits? Is it wise to base all class balance on this 1 dungeon? Are these damage numbers true in other 'end game' dungeons? Do we want to re-balance when the new end game arrives?

    I will admit that my mobility as a bard is pretty uber. Songs are great the few times I use them.

    When I started a bard I thought I was going to be mostly support, and not dps. So I wouln't mind a nerf in dps as long as it came w/ a buff to support.
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  4. #454
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Beta is beta, but didn't the level cap at 30, also gear wasn't ilvl 90
    Which puts them even further behind since they scale worse than any other class.
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  5. #455
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    There is no place in this game for what youre asking for. Absolutely no place for a full support class. Change the game first, then we can talk
    yet people have orgasms over Selene buff? and you still say there is no room?
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  6. #456
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marzapan View Post
    When I started a bard I thought I was going to be mostly support, and not dps. So I wouln't mind a nerf in dps as long as it came w/ a buff to support.
    1billion time this
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marzapan View Post
    I just beat Garuda HM, so I'm no expert on Coil.

    Coil is the last part of End Game, now... will it be when 2.2 hits? Is it wise to base all class balance on this 1 dungeon? Are these damage numbers true in other 'end game' dungeons? Do we want to re-balance when the new end game arrives?

    I will admit that my mobility as a bard is pretty uber. Songs are great the few times I use them.

    When I started a bard I thought I was going to be mostly support, and not dps. So I wouln't mind a nerf in dps as long as it came w/ a buff to support.
    So punish those that actually read about the class to satisfy those that want bard to be something it is in different games and failed to read up about the class?
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  8. #458
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    IMO PVP is the exact reason they're nerfing bards. Bards are the by far the most mobile DPS. Unchecked, they'd wreck pvp.

    Crowd Control wrecked PvP in every single video i watched. The type of dps didn't matter.
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  9. #459
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    Alizebeth Bequin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nooblet View Post
    So punish those that actually read about the class to satisfy those that want bard to be something it is in different games and failed to read up about the class?
    Bards are brought primarily for their songs and secondarily for their mobility+kiting ability paired with their burst.

    They are as close to support as we have in the game.

    As long as their dps is "comparable", and I'm fairly certain its still going to be comparable, people will still keep bringing bards.

    If all your numbers suddenly read 5 dps lower, noone would even care.
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  10. #460
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    Quote Originally Posted by pandabearcat View Post
    Bards are brought primarily for their songs and secondarily for their mobility+kiting ability paired with their burst.

    They are as close to support as we have in the game.

    As long as their dps is "comparable", and I'm fairly certain its still going to be comparable, people will still keep bringing bards.

    If all your numbers suddenly read 5 dps lower, noone would even care.
    I just want more support abilities for BRD. I really liked BRD in XI and was hoping BRD would be somewhat similar here, but here its just an out and out dps lol. They should have called it Ranger and remove all support >.> That would fix BRD. All the BRD's in here just care about DPS and not the actual notion of BRD as a job. Makes me sad it does. Oh and this is just my opinion not fact gospel or anything before i start getting flamed lol
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