Bard Nerfs Offically Confirmed

[Woodberry]

You can replace any dps class by another one.
You can replace DRG by MNK, you can replace BLM by SMN, and vice versa. Bard can replace both.
There is only one class that cannot be replaced because no other class uses the same mechanic (regen MP + on-demand silence).
If you consider that the class also have a very good dps (easily in top 2 DPS until you reach ilvl90 then you start becoming less effective compared to others) then there is no reason why you would pick, say, a DRG over a BRD, for instance.
If Bard had a single target Limit Break, there wouldn't even have any melee dps playing this game.

There is a good reason why many people stack BRD in their party atm. Whoever disagree lives in denial.

Which is why it is odd they are nerfing dps. Already lowest dps at current endgame. Personally I have little faith in the devs after the whole pally/warrior tank fiasco. Seriously, the whole, "We had no idea pallies would use their abilities to beat content" statement was bizzare.

Personally, I think they should take the same approach here. Raise BRD dps to be in line with others and raise utility of other DPS. For example, take the mnk silence out of an ability and make it an off GCD silence on a 30 second cooldown.

[EasymodeX]

If you consider that the class also have a very good dps (easily in top 2 DPS until you reach ilvl90 then you start becoming less effective compared to others)

I'm dubious re: this supposed "i90" demarcation. From what I saw while gearing up, Bards always did less DPS even at lower gear levels. The difference seen at "i90" gear levels is not due to the gear itself, but rather due to the weeding out of bad players that can't make it into Coil, so you're left with a pool of DRG/MNK/BLM/SMN that don't fail at playing their respective classes.

[pandabearcat]

People who think BLM are going to be OP in pvp do not know how painfully easy it is to negate every one of the BLM's casts by jumping through him.

With lag and such I believe it would be even easier to cancel casts.

Melee without mobility will be a problem, so shoulder tackle (aka charge) is going to be pretty useful.

BLM's do not have a usable blink w/o a party member nearby (also not sure if usable while stunned/rooted) and have the lowest hp of any class.

Furthermore: cloth has almost 0 physical reduction.

I can imagine a pali stunbot and monk/dragoon completely blowing up a BLM in the ~6 seconds of stun you get with DR.

DoTs will likely be meaningless, as there is no penalty for removing DoTs. Summoners will be pretty bad unless you can get your miasmas to stick.

VS a no healer burst team they can be pretty good with massive slow maybe.

[Woodberry]

People who think BLM are going to be OP in pvp do not know how painfully easy it is to negate every one of the BLM's casts by jumping through him.

BLM has multiple binds, an aoe sleep, an instant cast slow/heavy, an instant cast on any ability, the ability to nullify physical attacks, and a run and gun attack. Not to mention they hit like a truck. They will dominate in pvp.

As to summoners, you can remove one debuff every 2.5 seconds while having a cast time. With everything being aoe capable, debuffs will have a good uptime.

[EasymodeX]

DRGs and BRDs will rule PvP if the mechanics are similar to current.

DRGs have multiple gap closers and stuns, along with high burst. BRDs have high burst, virtually no LOS, a disengage, a root and a silence. Not to mention they can sprint + TP song and use other tricks.

FF14 PvP balance is not even worth considering IMO unless they do some serious overhaul for PvP mechanics.

[Saisha]

(sic) I care no more, lol.

[Sterob]

Not to mention they can sprint + TP song and use other tricks.

sprint took all TP and TP song has 3s cast time, drain mana and -20% dps.
i believe this person is trolling

[Handheldstorm]

Saisha you talk about league of legend i think bard would be a nice support in league it can do damage can give the ADC mana with a song or debuff the other team in fight for caster seem like a support to me all it lacks is a heal. like it or not bard is a support/dps is does the low damage but bring things that help the party more then most classes my monk and bost healer for like 15s every 2 min you can give ppl TP MP and increase mages damage for longer then any cool down any other class can.

[Saisha]

(sic) I care no more, lol.

[EasymodeX]

Bards have superior TP regeneration to other TP-constrained classes. Abusing that by having both players hit sprint is a tactical advantage.

A 20% damage debuff doesn't matter when you're pure kiting and negating 100% of the opponent's damage in a 1v1.