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    Player Nica's Avatar
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    Nica Valca
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    personally i think you have get what you deserve... at the start of the game a lot of people, almost everybody, have said, the gil generate is not enough... still the crafter have continue to sell stuff at price often ridiculous...
    You know what the funny part is? Back then it was people like us (experienced crafters) who raised the alarm that the economy on a macro level have too many sinks and not enough fountains(something Yoshi-P himself confirmed), and just about everybody then told us we were wrong, greedy, and lazy for wanting to increase gil generation to balance the economy, often times trying to justify their position with “lol, I can make money gathering/crafting easily, there is no problem!!!”

    Not a month later, those same “almost everybody” turns right around and say “see, we told you there wasn’t enough gil in the system! You guys are just being greedy for charging too much!”

    The 180 would make politicians proud.


    what it did lead to? the RMT was on the rise...
    Non-sequitur, RMTs concentrate their efforts on the most profitable games, which tends to be the new and popular ones, which for the moment is ARR.


    what is amusing it's mostly new player server that have seen some of the most amazing stuff... like people getting more of 25M in 1 month... when people was generating with them story quest around 250.000 gils...
    /shrug, same thing happens in every MMO ever, the first to climb the crafting/gathering ladder in a new server always rake in massive profits. It was no different in 1.0.

    And where are all those people who kept saying there is no gil generation problem, and that they can make 15-30k every day easy from leves?

    you did play with the market to the point to squeeze insane amount of gils from a server that was news...
    10-15% profit is not what I’d consider “insane”

    don't tell me you have never thing one second hey some of the gils i get are from the RMT, maybe i must stop the time to see what will happend! never you have think at this and look at you.
    Because it shouldn’t be needed. Everyone in the game is holding some gil from RMTs, it is unavoidable.

    Quote Originally Posted by OldGeezer View Post
    Except you didn't have a market yet. You had wild speculation inflated by people with illegal gil.

    You’re presuming here that the majority of the gil supply were illicit, do you have anything to back up that assertion? Wild speculation is literally part of every new MMO/server launch, is every one of those inflated by RMT?

    Quote Originally Posted by silentwindfr View Post
    well i prefer go play than continue this, you simply don't want to admit that you have part of fault in the trouble...
    instead to move on, you are waiting there, screaming, crying... for some even threating them to get the gaming press or to use the law...
    Resorting to personal attacks now are we? Moreover, if SE is completely in the right as you’re claiming, why would you be afraid of gaming press coverage?


    Quote Originally Posted by seekerofpower View Post
    The difference here is, people are being told they need those 4m gil bracelets and 2.5m gil rings before they start running end game dungeons and are griefed when they get there if they don't have them.
    That sounds like the fault of the rest of the player base -ironically, the DoW/M part of it that are blaming crafters for high prices.

    So what you have here is the battle classes people setting the price of those expensive items by pricing the ingredients high, driving the perceived needs for those expensive items with their elitist attitudes, and turning around and lay all the blame on the crafters, how dare they create these items and sell them at these ridiculous prices after they bought our ridiculously expensive materials!

    I didn't care to upgrade my jewelery before I started AK and I did fine without it, but some people who aren't as confident in their abilities, or have never really done end game in MMOs before, may not know what to expect and end up thinking they NEED these items.
    Ignorance does not excuse illicit behavior, nor does it allow the offender to shirk responsibility and blame others for their actions.
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    Last edited by Nica; 10-09-2013 at 11:47 PM.