Bard readjustment

[mushashi]

right now all dps on tank and spank are doing the same dps(250-300) with the best gear.
But when u have movement in all dps goes down to 190-220 but bard dps reamin at 250-270.
who dotn see the problem with the SUPPORT class being the best dps on the game have a problem with bias.
After 14 years playing to mmorpgs i got the felling that utility come with less dps and complex class come with more dps,but seeing the balance of this game with bards faceroll support class being the ebst dps and paladins balance versus warrior i think that square never have played to an mmorpg

[Bardo]

who dotn see the problem with the SUPPORT class being the best dps on the game have a problem with bias.

OH, I see the problem.
You think Bard is a support class.

[Bardo]

Demon wall or AK all together is so easy with 2 bards. You don't need the dd limit break because by the time the 2 bees spawn demon wall will be dead or close to it and you can just ignore the bees. Done it plenty of times like that.

ROFL.
Care to share a video since you've done it like this so many times?
I've seen groups that can get it under half before spawns, but almost dead?
Get out of here with that bullshit misinformation... we're trying to have a serious conversation here. Kthx.

[Anonydort]

ROFL.
Care to share a video since you've done it like this so many times?
I've seen groups that can get it under half before spawns, but almost dead?
Get out of here with that bullshit misinformation... we're trying to have a serious conversation here. Kthx.

eh, it does. get some gear and try

[Bardo]

eh, it does. get some gear and try

So what you're telling me is that "Bards are OP in content they over-gear!".
Not really complaint worthy stuff there...

I specifically said it's not impossible, but it IS more difficult than with any class with a DD limit break.

I also like how everyone's concentrating on the Demon Wall part, yet no-one has touched the Hardmode Ifrit part of my statement.

[Thotor]

I've seen groups that can get it under half before spawns, but almost dead?

Killing wall just after bees spawned is really easy, with or without LB (without killing the bees and before next repel ofc)
Same like killing last boss on 2nd gargoyle.

Get your lvl 34 LNC skill, this will change your life =)
I have been killing wall with 2 bard with just iLevel 60 gear (and some AF1) and a GC Bow.

[Subucnimorning]

ROFL.
Care to share a video since you've done it like this so many times?
I've seen groups that can get it under half before spawns, but almost dead?
Get out of here with that bullshit misinformation... we're trying to have a serious conversation here. Kthx.

I've killed the wall before bees spawned plenty of times with no lb

[ChanceSkeleton]

Yahhh... I don't think you can ever ignore the bees. Unless you are so overgeared for that instance that you have no reason to be in there.

2 Bards on Demon Wall is fine though. Bard single target DPS is good enough to kill them with little problem, just need to focus.

[Bardo]

I've killed the wall before bees spawned plenty of times with no lb

Let's see it!
I would absolutely love to be proven wrong, but someone saying something on a forum isn't proof.

I solo'd coil! <--- see?

What you're saying doesn't match my experience at all, so show us your gear, show us a vid, and I'll eat my hat if you're actually telling the truth and not just trying to flop your epeen onto the internet.

[Keneblerz]

Anyone else realize these circumstances are only applicable to the people you party with :|. Its not the same in every case.