Bard readjustment

[savant07]

and when SE changes some things about the class everyone will complain about a new class being OP.....>_>

Hopefully they buff bards to be on par with summoners

[klops]

req is garbage and should NEVER be played...

Sorry, this is a FFXIV forum. Please only post here if you actually play FFXIV.

Foe Requiem is the largest DPS increase in the game at the moment. A BRD BRD BLM DRG party with BRDs rotating FR will collectively parse higher than any other party setup in the game right now all things being equal. Furthermore, what are your alternatives? Mage's Ballad is a niche spell that, outside of Turn 2 and higher in Bahamut's Coil, is hardly necessary. Even then, most of its uses come in between fights while running around between pulls to regen MP during combat. Army's Paeon is entirely unnecessary in the aforementioned setup and is completely outclassed by FR regardless if there is at least one source of magic damage in your group.

[Crescent_Dusk]

Summoners > Bards. They don't need to stand still to DPS and they can put out huge numbers, more so than a Bard who refuses to use songs.
Instead of trying to reduce Bard's performance because you cannot top them in damage, try looking at your own class and see what needs to increase. You don't do try and nerf every class ahead of your's.
Besides, a bard is high DPS because, yes, they don't have to put on songs and don't suffer the 20% damage debuff, but if they do, they are inline with every other class that brings utility to a party. The less utility you bring, the more DPS you can do. Seems balanced to me.
Bards who refuse to bring songs to the party will fail at later content.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

My two 2.5 second DoT cast times and Thunder's 2.5 seconds and Ruin's 2.5 seconds say hello to you. Without Ruin, your combined dot tick is for about 300-310.

[savant07]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

My two 2.5 second DoT cast times and Thunder's 2.5 seconds and Ruin's 2.5 seconds say hello to you. Without Ruin, your combined dot tick is for about 300-310.

And then he can cast ruin while it's ticking.

And then the pet is hitting for as much as Ruin.

And then he festers for 800-1200

[Crescent_Dusk]

And then he can cast ruin while it's ticking.

And then the pet is hitting for as much as Ruin.

And then he festers for 800-1200

Not while moving.

[savant07]

Not while moving.

The only thing you can't do in those three things is Ruin and that's the smallest part of your DPS. Your DoTs will be ticking while you are moving. And if you know the encounter, you can make sure to keep DoTs up AND cast Ruin efficiently.

Stop thinking everything should be easy for you. Learn to master the class and the encounter. Summoner DPS is insane.

[Kalamari]

Bard song utility always seemed to me like something that should be provided by a healer role, not a dps role. The high support value of Bards is simply disproportional to the damage they do.

But nerfing them to be a peg-legged dps with the main purpose of serving as a mana battery b*tch for healers doesn't seem fair either. It should be a pure damage dealer, and the support should be left to healers whom are the main support role.

Right now, why the hell would you bring a good MNK/DRG/SMN/BLM over a good BRD, unless you desperately need a particular LB? You can never have too many songs, while getting very near the same damage output of the other damage dealers.. 2 slices of cake for the price of 1.

[Crescent_Dusk]

The only thing you can't do in those three things is Ruin and that's the smallest part of your DPS. Your DoTs will be ticking while you are moving. And if you know the encounter, you can make sure to keep DoTs up AND cast Ruin efficiently.

Stop thinking everything should be easy for you. Learn to master the class and the encounter. Summoner DPS is insane.

Yeah, you can move while applying DoT's. Totally. You never have to stop in place to do something. Just like Bards.

[Farrell]

this dude is a troll cant we report him?
the fact is bard is a support class and have the best dps period.
moreover they havent position requirement neither cast skill, OP period.
now you can try defend it as u want troll,the fact is that bard are OP as hell

Always the Dragoons lol

[Ohkami]

What SE clearly needs to do is get rid of the different classes and just have one.
A super class that can tank, heal and have insane dps.