Thinking of switching to PLD...

[GinsterUnit]

What game are you playing? A pally isn't as self reliant as a warrior, doesn't have nearly as much hp, can't deal as much damage, and has a harder time holding threat of multiple targets.

I think it's very short sighted to think there will be no new bosses or mechanics added to the game, ones that may have a set amount of unmitigatable damage that requires a tank that has an hp pool that a paladin just can't reach. Point is, there is no way every boss fight in this game will only require 1 tank, and the things that paladins aren't good at, warriors are. Think about how the two work together, rather than being worried you aren't in the spotlight.

Well currently, all end game content has no need for add tanking beyond anything a PLD can do, in fact all current end game content works better with a PLD than a WAR.

Also where did I mention content that's not currently out...?

As I said, "Warriors will have their day, it just not right now..."

Read all my post tyvm

[Wangstrong]

So hilarious to see paladins on a "warrior is fine" campaign.

[MissE]

I can feel your pain, I hate seeing my HP going up and down like a roller coaster all the time.
I always felt like I'm giving a lot of pressure to my healers.

I'm gonna stick with my WAR for a bit longer though, since I just got my Ifrit Axe.

[SwashBuccaneer]

Pretty much how I am feeling. I always play tanks but I am not feeling the WAR. I feel more like a sturdy DPS class than a tank.

[Shuon]

i got whm to 41, and war seems fine so far up to and until stone vigil.

[Kitru]

WAR is fine the way it is, if they also received a 20% less damage buff from Defiance there would be absolutely zero reason for anyone to be a pld. You get more dmg, health, and healing. You don't get to have the increased defense too.

Anyone who thinks that WARs are asking for a full 20% DR buff has no idea what they're talking about. WARs, at this moment, *do* end up requiring more external healing than PALs because Wrath only provides 15% +healing when it needs to provide 25% to equate to the same effective contributions that PALs get out of Shield Oath's 20% damage reduction. On top of that, it's got problems because Wrath is a consumed resource, which means that it doesn't actually provide the full value thanks to downtime and ramp up time.

WARs and PALs are *close* to balanced, but they are not as balanced as they *should* be. WARs just need to get their healing received increased a bit and some degree of stability for it applied to it. They don't need increased DR.

[Warin]

Not to mention the interrupt mechanic? As a warrior I just have to face tank 50% of boss big nukes (like void thunder III).

Oh Pld has 2.5s cooldown, warrior has 30s wtf?

And warriors have to spec into taunt, and their flash doesn't give blind... Their base combo also doesn't reduce damage by 5%. It's like they gave every tanking ability to paladin then ran out of ideas when it came to Warriors

[Kitru]

Oh Pld has 2.5s cooldown, warrior has 30s wtf?

Keep in mind that the PAL interrupt is on the GCD and has a cost of 110 TP whereas the WAR one is free and off the GCD (albeit on a painfully long delay).

The whole thing with having to spec into Provoke isn't really a big issue given the state of threat generation. Unless you're doing it wrong, you'll have no problems with threat. Blind on Flash is also a pretty mediocre benefit, given the fact that it suffers from diminishing returns like every other status effect and, in my experience, has a minor effect upon hit/miss chance at best.

[Ondesvin]

Keep in mind that the PAL interrupt is on the GCD and has a cost of 110 TP whereas the WAR one is free and off the GCD (albeit on a painfully long delay).

can you get off your high warror are fine horse... K... thx lets move to the point then, - who here as a warrior dont want to have a Stun/interrupt they can fire of when they know a boss will hit you for say 3k damage and you can avoide it with a stun???
every warrior know this painfullly well on boss fight, we interrupt one ability that would hits us for 3k+, and then we tank on for another 15 or 20 sec and that boss start to cast it again and guess what our little "Stun" are still on a CD, so no interrupt, great 3k damage incoming.

PS. if you really want a 30 sec cd stun off GCD, then let us by all means swap the Warrior stun for the Pally stun, but dont whine cry or ragequit when you want it back.

[Bulwyf]

I'd rather have a shorter Hp pool that is harder to dent than have a huge Hp pool that just vanishes in a few hits. I'm sorry but compared to version 1.0 war, I feel I can't survive nearly as much as I could before. I am racing to lvl up pld because I want to be able to do endgame events, and in War's current state I don't feel as confident as I used to. They need to toss us a bone. I'm not asking for anything that will outshine a pld, but I want to feel as valuable when I play on war.

I can't agree with this enough. Anyone who has played MMOs over the years knows that it is far better to mitigate damage straight from the top rather than rely on a larger HP pool to make up the difference.