Counter to Elitism

[ispano]

I don't think so. If they design more content like "The Raven Nevermore", they'd have plenty of time to come up with new ideas before everyone on each server managed to beat it.

The problem with this is if they make it that difficult, most WON'T beat it ever. There's a reason Blizzard "dumbed down" alot of end game stuff after it gets released, because they didn't feel enough people got to experience it. There's a lot of people, like I said before, who just won't put in the time and effort to get really good and just want the game to be laid back. But when they can't do parts of it due to that, they don't play. And SE wants to attract some of these people.

I see it more and more these days, the mentality of people growing up and playing games. Not all of them mind you, but many. My nephew for example, I introduced him to some SNES games I had(played via EMU though) He liked many of them, but gave up on them just a few minutes in for being "too hard". And I see this everywhere I go just about.

[MicahZerrshia]

I see it more and more these days, the mentality of people growing up and playing games. Not all of them mind you, but many. My nephew for example, I introduced him to some SNES games I had(played via EMU though) He liked many of them, but gave up on them just a few minutes in for being "too hard". And I see this everywhere I go just about.

To many games have god-mode either standard or built in. Back in the nes/snes days games were as you got them and the only way to god-mode it was to use something like a game genie, but even then no one considered it a real win unless you did it without cheats.

FFXI is the same way, its all about the zerg now with the highest reward. No one wants to work for anything anymore. Personally I blame the parents who dont foster competition and give the same rewards to everyone regardless of effort cause "every child should be a winner". These more spoiled generations are growing up now and we are seeing this mentality seeping into everything from gaming to the work force.

[Renen]

The problem with this is if they make it that difficult, most WON'T beat it ever. There's a reason Blizzard "dumbed down" alot of end game stuff after it gets released, because they didn't feel enough people got to experience it. There's a lot of people, like I said before, who just won't put in the time and effort to get really good and just want the game to be laid back. But when they can't do parts of it due to that, they don't play. And SE wants to attract some of these people.

I see it more and more these days, the mentality of people growing up and playing games. Not all of them mind you, but many. My nephew for example, I introduced him to some SNES games I had(played via EMU though) He liked many of them, but gave up on them just a few minutes in for being "too hard". And I see this everywhere I go just about.

I disagree. I have not been able to beet raven nevermore, but I think its still a great fight. And its MUCH more satisfying to get "Yes! We beat the hard boss and got the 100% drop" than "Oh finally... The easiest boss's RNG FINALLY gave me the drop"

i think they are the people who lose to chill penguin. Or think that FF13 is better than the older FF.

FF12 122333 challenge is best :-)

[ispano]

I disagree. I have not been able to beet raven nevermore, but I think its still a great fight. And its MUCH more satisfying to get "Yes! We beat the hard boss and got the 100% drop" than "Oh finally... The easiest boss's RNG FINALLY gave me the drop"



FF12 122333 challenge is best :-)

And if you got a bunch of the people SE is trying to attract to the game to try it, would they agree?

And that's the thing, any given person can disagree with it, but what about the different minded players that they are trying to attract. Just because a handful or more of the people who paid and played the game like it, doesn't mean newcomers will.