Alpha First Look: Video 5 - Quests and Combat

[Ruisu]

Yoshida said himself awhile back. Do you want 300 quests per patch or do you want 10 quality ones. He answered that we all wanted 300.

Nice way of taking that quote out of context. They were talking about voice acting.

[Zezlar]

Nice way of taking that quote out of context. They were talking about voice acting.

Out of context? The first quest in that video had 11 lines worth of dialogue. You're telling me that's a quality quest? 10 of those with voice acting counterweights 290 more of those?

I have high standards is all, and it's one of the main factors I don't play Terra/WoW/Aion and so on. I hate that type of Quest system. Don't get me wrong it's not wrong to have some of that type of Quest, but I fear they will follow the trend and implement thousands of those over ARRs lifetime. I pray i'm wrong.

[Virtuso]

Out of context? The first quest in that video had 11 lines worth of dialogue. You're telling me that's a quality quest? 10 of those with voice acting counterweights 290 more of those?

I have high standards is all, and it's one of the main factors I don't play Terra/WoW/Aion and so on. I hate that type of Quest system.

SWTOR already tried pushing for full-voiced quests filled with cut scenes and various dialog options and interactions with NPC's for their quests. Just isn't good enough for gamers. People need more than 10 quests per patch. A whole lot more. I'll gladly take 300 voiceless quests over just 10 of the same quests with voices any day.

[pool842]

yet by your medal count you grinded in 14 1.0 way longer then my brain could handle.. your point is invalid sir. 14 pre patch 1.9 was bad sooo... I don't really see your logic? Especially when you consider wow,terra,Aion?

Out of context? The first quest in that video had 11 lines worth of dialogue. You're telling me that's a quality quest? 10 of those with voice acting counterweights 290 more of those?

I have high standards is all, and it's one of the main factors I don't play Terra/WoW/Aion and so on. I hate that type of Quest system. Don't get me wrong it's not wrong to have some of that type of Quest, but I fear they will follow the trend and implement thousands of those over ARRs lifetime. I pray i'm wrong.

[Ruisu]

Out of context? The first quest in that video had 11 lines worth of dialogue. You're telling me that's a quality quest? 10 of those with voice acting counterweights 290 more of those?

I have high standards is all, and it's one of the main factors I don't play Terra/WoW/Aion and so on. I hate that type of Quest system.

OH NO. A SIDEQUEST HAS LITTLE DIALOGUE. Not everyone is going to pour their heart out to you when you're taking on jobs. Not all dialogue is going to be the best.

What the hell are you all expecting for quests? Seriously, aside from the kill X to whatever, everything I've seen in ARR looks more or less like whatever XI had.

Kill specific person. Interact with object on the field to spawn enemies. Grab certain items that drop from mobs.

Since everyone heralds FFXI to be the most elaborate quest design ever, here's something to take note of:

It's the same goddamn thing.

[Zezlar]

OH NO. A SIDEQUEST HAS LITTLE DIALOGUE. Not everyone is going to pour their heart out to you when you're taking on jobs. Not all dialogue is going to be the best.

What the hell are you all expecting for quests? Seriously, aside from the kill X to whatever, everything I've seen in ARR looks more or less like whatever XI had.

Kill specific person. Interact with object on the field to spawn enemies. Grab certain items that drop from mobs.

Since everyone heralds FFXI to be the most elaborate quest design ever, here's something to take note of:

It's the same goddamn thing.

To be honest the only MMO that i've ever found normal quests to be satisfying is Runescape. Yeah the Java game. Final Fantasy XI has quests that sucked too, but it masked the suckyness decently well with the cut-scenes. Anyways i'll end with that since there is always the thought that ARR could have what I want.

[Psykotsu]

To be honest the only MMO that i've ever found normal quests to be satisfying is Runescape. Yeah the Java game. Final Fantasy XI has quests that sucked too, but it masked the suckyness decently well with the cut-scenes. Anyways i'll end with that since there is always the thought that ARR could have what I want.

Nostalgia is a game-developer's worst enemy.

[Ruisu]

To be honest the only MMO that i've ever found normal quests to be satisfying is Runescape. Yeah the Java game. Final Fantasy XI has quests that sucked too, but it masked the suckyness decently well with the cut-scenes. Anyways i'll end with that since there is always the thought that ARR could have what I want.

Even Runescape quests were the same thing, if you boil it down. Aside from the cryptic puzzles, you were pretty much doing the same thing. As much as I regret to say, I did every single thing in Runescape as of 2005. One Small Request or whatever that quest was, and the Legend's Guild quest were the most elaborate of the quests and they were pretty much fetch quests in the same fashion as most other MMOs.

Not that I mind it at all, I just don't see why the "WoW-clone" quests are so looked down upon for being simplified versions of those said quests. Especially at earlier levels.

[Psykotsu]

Even Runescape quests were the same thing, if you boil it down. Aside from the cryptic puzzles, you were pretty much doing the same thing. As much as I regret to say, I did every single thing in Runescape as of 2005. One Small Request or whatever that quest was, and the Legend's Guild quest were the most elaborate of the quests and they were pretty much fetch quests in the same fashion as most other MMOs.

Not that I mind it at all, I just don't see why the "WoW-clone" quests are so looked down upon for being simplified versions of those said quests. Especially at earlier levels.

It's simply because it's WoW. It's really that simple.

[Nayto]

To be honest the only MMO that i've ever found normal quests to be satisfying is Runescape. Yeah the Java game. Final Fantasy XI has quests that sucked too, but it masked the suckyness decently well with the cut-scenes. Anyways i'll end with that since there is always the thought that ARR could have what I want.

Of course runescape quests were good... they only churned up one or two a year. And most likely it's to either utilize another grind mechanic for you to use or is an actual storyline.... then your off grinding for half a year till the next quest comes.

And I hope you realized that they still have yet to hand out mainstoryline quests/class/guild quests etc.