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    Quote Originally Posted by IloveYouPumpkin View Post
    I mean, I like the game. It looks pretty and I think I'll enjoy it. But the hand-holding preypacer is talking about.. I also find incredibly irritating. It's something that plagues a lot of MMO's in recent years.
    Would you prefer quests aimed at helping you level up to be cryptic and hard to figure out without reading a guide on the internet? No new player wants to have to research quests on a wiki when they first start out. They just want to kill stuff. Once theyve learned their class and gotten used to the game, THEN you can take some of the handholding away and make things more complicated (edit: sorry, forgot to finish my sentence LOL)

    I can tell you I personally did not like the quests in XI where you had no idea what the hell you were supposed to do next because the NPCs were so vague and unclear about the next goal. If you pretty much HAVE to look up an online walkthrough written by somebody who actually took the time wandering around aimlessly until they happened across the next objective, then that kinda kills the fun for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    Would you prefer quests aimed at helping you level up to be cryptic and hard to figure out without reading a guide on the internet? No new player wants to have to research quests on a wiki when they first start out. They just want to kill stuff. Once theyve learned their class and gotten used to the game, THEN you can take some of the handholding away and make things more complicated (edit: sorry, forgot to finish my sentence LOL)

    I can tell you I personally did not like the quests in XI where you had no idea what the hell you were supposed to do next because the NPCs were so vague and unclear about the next goal. If you pretty much HAVE to look up an online walkthrough written by somebody who actually took the time wandering around aimlessly until they happened across the next objective, then that kinda kills the fun for me.

    It's not too far from having an arrow like in BioShock 2 pointing at where you need to go though, know what I mean?

    There's a line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post
    I can tell you I personally did not like the quests in XI where you had no idea what the hell you were supposed to do next because the NPCs were so vague and unclear about the next goal. If you pretty much HAVE to look up an online walkthrough written by somebody who actually took the time wandering around aimlessly until they happened across the next objective, then that kinda kills the fun for me.


    This never gets old.
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    Last edited by Hulan; 12-06-2012 at 02:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulan View Post


    This never gets old.
    I especially hated this from EQ. No quest journal, no real direction, and god forbid you forget to write it down.

    FFXI...... same way.
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    Last edited by Reika; 12-06-2012 at 02:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhanelem View Post

    I can tell you I personally did not like the quests in XI where you had no idea what the hell you were supposed to do next because the NPCs were so vague and unclear about the next goal. If you pretty much HAVE to look up an online walkthrough written by somebody who actually took the time wandering around aimlessly until they happened across the next objective, then that kinda kills the fun for me.
    omg i so agree. I don't know how anyone ever figured out how to do anything in FFXI without looking at wiki or something. Vague is an understatement lol. "Did this guy just give me a quest? what the what?! what the hell does that mean???"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talshara_Blade View Post
    omg i so agree. I don't know how anyone ever figured out how to do anything in FFXI without looking at wiki or something. Vague is an understatement lol. "Did this guy just give me a quest? what the what?! what the hell does that mean???"
    Exactly, if the game doesn't isn't "hand-holding", just pull up a "hand-holding" wiki. People are so.....they don't know what they want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psykotsu View Post
    Exactly, if the game doesn't isn't "hand-holding", just pull up a "hand-holding" wiki. People are so.....they don't know what they want.
    I want gameplay and events sort of like GW2 Raids and instances like WoW, world and character from the FF universe, and challenge so my teammates and i can have epic battles and feel like we accomplished something so far everything on my checklist seems to follow through, only thing im still waiting on is challenge... i dont think Yoshi-p will lemme down on that though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IloveYouPumpkin View Post
    I mean, I like the game. It looks pretty and I think I'll enjoy it. But the hand-holding preypacer is talking about.. I also find incredibly irritating. It's something that plagues a lot of MMO's in recent years.
    If the quest system doesn't tell you where to go or give you some help on the map where to go people will go to another website, like how people went to ffxiclopedia for FFXI every time they were stuck on a quest or mission they didn't know what to do or where to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    If the quest system doesn't tell you where to go or give you some help on the map where to go people will go to another website, like how people went to ffxiclopedia for FFXI every time they were stuck on a quest or mission they didn't know what to do or where to go.
    yes i understand what you saying there but there many other way like i explain before they dont need to put in the map and show you step by step, but just simple putting a mark on top of the mob, object, etc will be enough at least when u see you u know thats what u need to kill or do and a quick think that tell u around what place to go but showing step by step like showing a baby to do things..... thank you but no thank you!
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    Looks like next in the line of complaints will be 'cookie cutter herp derp quests' or 'one-combo WS spam confirmed'

    Nonetheless complaining about what we see here is about the same as that person who wrote a review based on 'farming rats for hours, exciting!' for FFXIV 1.0.
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