SE stop doing the "norm"

[Firon]

I bet these idiots gonna tell me Fenir was solo content as well cause a few select RDM's could solo him...

[Andrien]

solo content in ffxi?

Its more like RDM content lmao

[Firon]

solo content in ffxi?

Its more like RDM content lmao

Yeah lol....

[Jynx]

I bet these idiots gonna tell me Fenir was solo content as well cause a few select RDM's could solo him...

You still have yet to tell me that a player could find himself twidling his thumbs because there was no one online, the real crux of this debate.

There was plenty of content to do solo, fact is fact.

[Babydoll]

You still have yet to tell me that a player could find himself twidling his thumbs because there was no one online, the real crux of this debate.

There was plenty of content to do solo, fact is fact.

Indeed. The only ones who stood around doing absolutely nothing are the ones who did not want to do anything for themselves. I always made my own parties, ran my own Dynamis and HNM LS, I did everything myself. Not that hard lol.

[Arcell]

Indeed. The only ones who stood around doing absolutely nothing are the ones who did not want to do anything for themselves. I always made my own parties, ran my own Dynamis and HNM LS, I did everything myself. Not that hard lol.

Making your own parties and running LSs is productive certainly but it's not doing it "yourself". The point I believe they're trying to make is that at a certain point you did need groups to progress when content was relevant, or at least most players did. Also there should be a distinction between what content was intended for and what players actually did with it. If it was created for a group, it's group content. If players find a way to get around this and solo it, it was still created as group content. Players simply made it solo content.

[Xmbei]

Indeed. The only ones who stood around doing absolutely nothing are the ones who did not want to do anything for themselves. I always made my own parties, ran my own Dynamis and HNM LS, I did everything myself. Not that hard lol.

I am sure you completed Shadow Lord, Ark Angels, Black Coffin, and Promy's (pre level cap removal) and all the other Main Story fights ;D. Seriously gtfo all of you elitist dicks. You might not think yourself as one but the 3 of you are acting like it, with the whole "I can solo everything FFXI!!!! You others just fail and don't live up to my standard" (Heck Babydoll you even said that yourself, I hate elitest and when you said that I loathed you) Why you might ask? Because it is exactly you people and my friends that wouldn't help those that need it because "they weren't up to snuff to your ridiculously high standards" or "We already did it and I sure as hell don't want to do it again".
I tried my hardest for years to get those done, What I cared about was the story and because of people in the community like what I am seeing here saying everything is solo, is the shit that made me give up, I never beat Ark Angels or Black Coffin or any of the stories except Shadow Lord, because after shouting 6 Hrs a day for 6 months straight and being ignored, you all can eat it.
Yes I am upset because I hate the Elitist attitude so many in XI had. It is reason Why I could get nothing done, (not because I didn't have skill) It was because I DIDN'T have the damn time to do any of it.... I was in the Navy, duty day every 3rd day (which is working 24hrs+a work day) then being out to sea randomly for 4 years. I could never make it into an end game shell due to these things, then when a friend would hook me up, I would get boned by the navy and 1-2 weeks later get kicked by lack of participation (not my direct fault).
The other problem with a lot of the Solo-Content that has been put up. It puts no real forward motion in character development. No XP from Quests? Yes they were fun just to do, but the rewards were small. People at least want a tangible reward for something they worked hard on solo. Self-Satisfaction in a game only goes so far.
Also again on the Elitist, If you are so amazing to do something solo, doesn't mean everyone is, so stop rubbing it in everyones face and have some humbleness. It is what turns people off of games, which will be a challenge for all the new players at ARR release because we will have a lot of people with all 50's rubbing it in the new players face and not helping them get things done because "Oh I did it myself! You weakling/bad player you should stop playing!" Instead, (and I am not saying you are not also a kind soul and help players (but for majority people that rub it in others face that they do something better than others won't do this)) why don't you help that person because obviously they are having trouble or are not confident in their own ability yet, so go help them, give them pointers while doing so and evolve a great community like early XI had, before all the elitist end game shells, and it will propegate where we all help each other! That's what I want out of ARR above all else.

[Babydoll]

Oh..when I said I did it myself I meant...I didn't do dynamis or HNM by myself LOL I thought that was a given. Haha what I meant was I ran them myself and invited and spoke to people individually myself to get things going. I didn't wait for someone else to take charge and lead, I enjoy doing that myself I understand what you are saying though Arcell! Well said

I was responding to Jynx also lol who said

You still have yet to tell me that a player could find himself twidling his thumbs because there was no one online, the real crux of this debate.

That was about how people were complaining there was nothing to do because everything had to be done in groups. That I understand. But yeah in FFXI to progress you did need a group...although for myself and others I don't think it was that tough to make one I always enjoyed that aspect of the game...if I wanted to play solo I could just play Monster Hunter or Demon Souls...or even Elder Scrolls. Its like an offline MMORPG...in a way.

[Babydoll]

I am sure you completed Shadow Lord, Ark Angels, Black Coffin, and Promy's (pre level cap removal) and all the other Main Story fights ;D. Seriously gtfo all of you elitist dicks. You might not think yourself as one but the 3 of you are acting like it, with the whole "I can solo everything FFXI!!!! You others just fail and don't live up to my standard" (Heck Babydoll you even said that yourself, I hate elitest and when you said that I loathed you) Why you might ask? Because it is exactly you people and my friends that wouldn't help those that need it because "they weren't up to snuff to your ridiculously high standards" or "We already did it and I sure as hell don't want to do it again".
I tried my hardest for years to get those done, What I cared about was the story and because of people in the community like what I am seeing here saying everything is solo, is the shit that made me give up, I never beat Ark Angels or Black Coffin or any of the stories except Shadow Lord, because after shouting 6 Hrs a day for 6 months straight and being ignored, you all can eat it.
Yes I am upset because I hate the Elitist attitude so many in XI had. It is reason Why I could get nothing done, (not because I didn't have skill) It was because I DIDN'T have the damn time to do any of it.... I was in the Navy, duty day every 3rd day (which is working 24hrs+a work day) then being out to sea randomly for 4 years. I could never make it into an end game shell due to these things, then when a friend would hook me up, I would get boned by the navy and 1-2 weeks later get kicked by lack of participation (not my direct fault).
The other problem with a lot of the Solo-Content that has been put up. It puts no real forward motion in character development. No XP from Quests? Yes they were fun just to do, but the rewards were small. People at least want a tangible reward for something they worked hard on solo. Self-Satisfaction in a game only goes so far.
Also again on the Elitist, If you are so amazing to do something solo, doesn't mean everyone is, so stop rubbing it in everyones face and have some humbleness. It is what turns people off of games, which will be a challenge for all the new players at ARR release because we will have a lot of people with all 50's rubbing it in the new players face and not helping them get things done because "Oh I did it myself! You weakling/bad player you should stop playing!" Instead, (and I am not saying you are not also a kind soul and help players (but for majority people that rub it in others face that they do something better than others won't do this)) why don't you help that person because obviously they are having trouble or are not confident in their own ability yet, so go help them, give them pointers while doing so and evolve a great community like early XI had, before all the elitist end game shells, and it will propegate where we all help each other! That's what I want out of ARR above all else.

Okay...sorry that being self sufficient is an elitist...also I am SO glad that you can judge me based on a few posts I have made on an online forum. Shows good character! Truly. You have no idea how kind I am to my friends, how much I love helping and meeting new people..and how mostly everyone on my server knew me as the person who would sit around..wait for shouts and go help people. Apparently I am a hardcore end game snob.

Judging that I have 0 king gear also...I gave it all to my LS members...yup what an elitist sob I am! I passed all the Dalms to other Summoners, gave away all the Ebodies, the Manteels, the Jorm Poles..Gaiters...TO EVERYONE BUT MYSELF. Also add in that I did not get ONE item from the time I ran HNMLS....LOL you know me so, so well my dear.

I guess because I enjoyed playing FFXI with my boyfriend and duoing/soloing things because how I am sick (I shouldn't be posting this but whatever, since you know me so well you should know this as well) back then with my heart condition...I would solo because I did not want to have to go AFK every 10 minutes and bother people in the EXP PT or while camping NM. Sorry I did not feel compelled to post my entire medical history on here, I did not realize that if I did not share every last personal detail that I would be labeled in such a poor manner.

I suppose I should tell my boyfriend go f himself and play alone or to get over it if we don't have hours on end to sit and play with others so we choose to solo.

Please..by all means, continue to tell me more about myself. I have never in all my internet years come across such a cruel and judgmental person. Really, this is worse then the FFXIAH.com jealous girls I had to put up with.

[Xmbei]

Okay...sorry that being self sufficient is an elitist...also I am SO glad that you can judge me based on a few posts I have made on an online forum. Shows good character! Truly. You have no idea how kind I am to my friends, how much I love helping and meeting new people..and how mostly everyone on my server knew me as the person who would sit around..wait for shouts and go help people. Apparently I am a hardcore end game snob.

Judging that I have 0 king gear also...I gave it all to my LS members...yup what an elitist sob I am! I passed all the Dalms to other Summoners, gave away all the Ebodies, the Manteels, the Jorm Poles..Gaiters...TO EVERYONE BUT MYSELF. Also add in that I did not get ONE item from the time I ran HNMLS....LOL you know me so, so well my dear.

I guess because I enjoyed playing FFXI with my boyfriend and duoing/soloing things because how I am sick (I shouldn't be posting this but whatever, since you know me so well you should know this as well) back then with my heart condition...I would solo because I did not want to have to go AFK every 10 minutes and bother people in the EXP PT or while camping NM. Again...yup, true elitist!!

I suppose I should tell my boyfriend go f himself and play alone or to get over it if we don't have hours on end to sit and play with others so we choose to solo.

Please..by all means, continue to tell me more about myself. I have never in all my internet years come across such a cruel and judgmental person. Really, this is worse then the FFXIAH.com jealous girls I had to put up with.

Way to not read it all -.- I said in the last paragraph that you might be a kind soul. lol but still my point stands for most of the majority of people I had experience with

Edit: P.S. because I am in a rush out the door to get to school forgot to add this. I am sorry to offend you so greatly, and for your health problems. It was just compounded with Elexia and Jynx statements and just past history on FFXI that that quote and the continuation of stating "(we) did it all ourself" falred it off... The fact that I tried to get things done myself but no one would help me still is the biggest regret for me in FFXI before I quit. Again I am sorry, it might of started out targeting you but in general it was a blanket statement.... I just want a better community that will help each other. Not one that excludeds others because of players teiring content to a scale that some never get to do it.