Fresh Start will ruin 2.0

[Firon]

I explained this fairly clearly.
FFXIVs economy will -never- balance out.
Why?
Old servers currently have lets say 5000 mil
new servers have none

so day 1:
1mil goes into economy, 500k comes out

old server: 5000mil 500k
new server: 500k

a month later:
old server: 5015mil
new server: 15mil

Both servers will increase gil at the same amount on average. But theres no reason why new ones would reach the amount of gil in old ones.

Just stop posting please that makes no sense does not matter if server 2 only has 150 mil total cause it will be balanced for them.

[Azurymber]

Just stop posting please that makes no sense does not matter if server 2 only has 150 mil total cause it will be balanced for them.

I realize for -them- it will be balanced in the sense of supply + demand.

My point is, if SE tries to fix the OTHER broken economy, lets say via gil-sinks, it will UNBALANCE the non-broken one.

So if server A has inflation and server B is balanced, the policies to fix inflation on server A would -hurt- server B's economy

I don't know how much clearer I can be about this.

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

I realize for -them- it will be balanced in the sense of supply + demand.

My point is, if SE tries to fix the OTHER broken economy, lets say via gil-sinks, it will UNBALANCE the non-broken one.

So if server A has inflation and server B is balanced, the policies to fix inflation on server A would -hurt- server B's economy

I don't know how much clearer I can be about this.

Don't you think if they were to open a fresh start server that they would recognize that? You act like they would just create a new server and totally ignore this factor. In fact, they already do this today with server populations and that is what the merger was based on. Also, they are flirting with the idea of making supply rating based on server.

Anyway, what this OP really does is make a mountain out of a very hypothetical situation, and on top of that, totally makes an assumption that SE would not acknowledge it out the door.

I remember you. You took a break for a while didn't you? I know you probably feel like you're a great addition to any community because when you do post a new OP you strike pretty long discussion. However, it's not long because it's interesting, or very divided, or even remotely intellectual. It usually is made up of ridiculous statements you try to pass off as fact and the rest of the way people trying to let you know how ridiculous you are, FFXI nostalgia driven, or thick. It actually brings back memories to a day where the community was a lot more obnoxious than it is now. Perhaps it is very tragic foreshadowing for 2.0.

[Azurymber]

Don't you think if they were to open a fresh start server that they would recognize that? You act like they would just create a new server and totally ignore this factor. In fact, they already do this today with server populations and that is what the merger was based on. Also, they are flirting with the idea of making supply rating based on server.

Anyway, what this OP really does is make a mountain out of a very hypothetical situation, and on top of that, totally makes an assumption that SE would not acknowledge it out the door.

I remember you. You took a break for a while didn't you? I know you probably feel like you're a great addition to any community because when you do post a new OP you strike pretty long discussion. However, it's not long because it's interesting, or very divided, or even remotely intellectual. It usually is made up of ridiculous statements you try to pass off as fact and the rest of the way people trying to let you know how ridiculous you are, FFXI nostalgia driven, or thick. It actually brings back memories to a day where the community was a lot more obnoxious than it is now. Perhaps it is very tragic foreshadowing for 2.0.

Really? personally attacking me? If you don't like my posts, don't post.

When this game was released I basically said it was probably going to fail:
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...57471285740#18
And said the same thing in multiple other threads.
I got the whole "DON'T HATE, ITS NEW, THEY WILL FIX IT" thing over and over again. "ITS A HYPOTHETICAL PROBLEM, SE IS SMARTER THAN THAT"

In november I asked ppl to post server populations and predicted that they would drop to 500ish ppl by christmas. Shortly after they stopped showing the server population (and it most likely hit that prediction)
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...98487503705074

When they decided to charge people -before- new jobs I said it would kill off the population.. it did, and finally led to server merges
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-a-horrid-idea

I post the things I post for a reason, and A lot of times they do come true. I might be wrong, but so far I've argued that the game had a bad launch, the economy is a mess, the population would drop drastically, it would take them well over a year to 'fix' the game (most people were saying it would be fixed completely by last christmas), and they would pull the game away from open world stuff towards instanced dungeons. All of those are true or have come true.

So I don't see where you get the idea that I post ridiculous things.

As for contributing:
I've written multiple solo guides, travel guides and gathering guides which have gotten well over 100k views combined. So I don't get why anyone here thinks I'm a troll. I spent hours getting to every corner of the maps so I could give ppl something to find, figured out a way to solo within a week of a bunch of ppl on this board claiming its impossible and the game is not a solo game, etc. What about this stuff makes me troll-like?

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

Really? personally attacking me? If you don't like my posts, don't post.

When this game was released I basically said it was probably going to fail:
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...57471285740#18
And said the same thing in multiple other threads.
I got the whole "DON'T HATE, ITS NEW, THEY WILL FIX IT" thing over and over again. "ITS A HYPOTHETICAL PROBLEM, SE IS SMARTER THAN THAT"

In november I asked ppl to post server populations and predicted that they would drop to 500ish ppl by christmas. Shortly after they stopped showing the server population (and it most likely hit that prediction)
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...98487503705074

When they decided to charge people -before- new jobs I said it would kill off the population.. it did, and finally led to server merges
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-a-horrid-idea

You didn't predict the obvious. First of all, everyone knew the game was awful when it started because we all have eyes and a functioning brain.

Second, the rate that FFXIV was dying off in terms of it's player base was always very apparent and isn't outrageously shocking to hear by anyone.

Thirdly, the servers weren't merged because they started charging. In fact, the game didn't take that huge of a hit when it started monthly fees. The merger was already in the works and talked about openly BEFORE they started charging. Again, due to the unpopularity of the game and players not wanting to spend their time in a game that won't be redeveloped til almost a year after they were told.

I think that you believe you're a lot smarter than you're not.

[Chardrizard]

Really? personally attacking me? If you don't like my posts, don't post.

When this game was released I basically said it was probably going to fail:
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...57471285740#18
And said the same thing in multiple other threads.
I got the whole "DON'T HATE, ITS NEW, THEY WILL FIX IT" thing over and over again. "ITS A HYPOTHETICAL PROBLEM, SE IS SMARTER THAN THAT"

In november I asked ppl to post server populations and predicted that they would drop to 500ish ppl by christmas. Shortly after they stopped showing the server population (and it most likely hit that prediction)
http://ffxiv.zam.com/forum.html?foru...98487503705074

When they decided to charge people -before- new jobs I said it would kill off the population.. it did, and finally led to server merges
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-a-horrid-idea

I post the things I post for a reason, and A lot of times they do come true. I might be wrong, but so far I've argued that the game had a bad launch, the economy is a mess, the population would drop drastically, it would take them well over a year to 'fix' the game (most people were saying it would be fixed completely by last christmas), and they would pull the game away from open world stuff towards instanced dungeons. All of those are true or have come true.

Why hello there, everybody knew it was failing.