Thread: Fresh Start will ruin 2.0

Well I dont think this really matters anyway.

Not only is gil ridiculously easy to come by but if you are just that lazy there are gillions and gillions available for purchase online. Not only that the available gil just keeps growing due to SE sheer lack of controls against rmt and botting. Most new players start the game with a few gillion anyway cause they just buy it right away after they create their char and when they need more they just buy more. (which is ridiculous with the ease of gil acquisition in this game). The MMO black market is booming and SE is far behind the times in alot of aspects of the mmoverse, especially when it comes to black markets. I have never and will never buy gil but I know players in xi who buy at least 10m a month and have been for years with no repercussions, so even calling what we have an economy is laughable. And a casino is just going to draw more black market activities to the game and se will sit on their hands as usual, giving excuses as they think up more time syncs for us.

So se taking measures to control the input and output of gil is a non-issue as it never will be. Even if they plan on trying it there are still going to be ppl with 40m and ppl with 2m. Some ppl spend some ppl save. Some ppl earn gil some ppl buy it. Regardless there will always be rich and poor and a lack of balance between.

Originally Posted by MicahZerrshia

Well I dont think this really matters anyway.

Not only is gil ridiculously easy to come by but if you are just that lazy there are gillions and gillions available for purchase online. Not only that the available gil just keeps growing due to SE sheer lack of controls against rmt and botting. Most new players start the game with a few gillion anyway cause they just buy it right away after they create their char and when they need more they just buy more. (which is ridiculous with the ease of gil acquisition in this game). The MMO black market is booming and SE is far behind the times in alot of aspects of the mmoverse, especially when it comes to black markets. I have never and will never buy gil but I know players in xi who buy at least 10m a month and have been for years with no repercussions, so even calling what we have an economy is laughable. And a casino is just going to draw more black market activities to the game and se will sit on their hands as usual, giving excuses as they think up more time syncs for us.

So se taking measures to control the input and output of gil is a non-issue as it never will be. Even if they plan on trying it there are still going to be ppl with 40m and ppl with 2m. Some ppl spend some ppl save. Some ppl earn gil some ppl buy it. Regardless there will always be rich and poor and a lack of balance between.

I honestly don't think most MMO players buy currency. I have no idea where you got that idea. Some morally bankrupt people buy gil, but it is not that common nor is it cheap by any means if you actually google it the prices are quite high.

RMT has little affect on the XIV economy except at times when they have driven down the prices of certain goods. There is no big problem with inflation from it like there was in XI.

I think you probably DO buy gil and that is why you want to paint this picture which in my experience is not at all accurate.

Originally Posted by Murugan

I think you probably DO buy gil and that is why you want to paint this picture which in my experience is not at all accurate.

You think wrong sir. When I ran my own shell I would actually boot gil buyers and I ended up booting alot of peeps which is where I get that idea

Originally Posted by Murugan

I honestly don't think most MMO players buy currency. I have no idea where you got that idea. Some morally bankrupt people buy gil, but it is not that common nor is it cheap by any means if you actually google it the prices are quite high.

RMT has little affect on the XIV economy except at times when they have driven down the prices of certain goods. There is no big problem with inflation from it like there was in XI.

I think you probably DO buy gil and that is why you want to paint this picture which in my experience is not at all accurate.

Wrong. They buy currency and items. And unless you want this game to become a crap Korean rmt game, stop #%*##% about Gil. Ffxiv economy is fine. Period

Originally Posted by Noir

Wrong. They buy currency and items. And unless you want this game to become a crap Korean rmt game, stop #%*##% about Gil. Ffxiv economy is fine. Period

If only that were true. Btw, League of Legends thrives on RMT.

Originally Posted by Noir

Wrong. They buy currency and items. And unless you want this game to become a crap Korean rmt game, stop #%*##% about Gil. Ffxiv economy is fine. Period

Your posts are as confusing as they are angry. What are you talking about? So you think most people DO buy gil AND items, but people need to stop complaining or this game will become "a crap Korean rmt game" (because god knows only Koreans use RMT and it hasn't been around in English language MMO's since EQ/UO).

I still don't think most people in FFXIV buy gil, nor do I think it is a serious problem given how expensive gil currently is from RMT sites and what comparitively little it will buy you. The best way to earn gil is by far to do it yourself, even if you lack any DoL/DoH or even a level 50 character. As long as that is true I don't consider RMT to be having a serious impact on the economy at all. I wish they would ban more botters and RMT characters because it is cheating, but they aren't exactly ruining the game by any means.

Originally Posted by Murugan

Your posts are as confusing as they are angry. What are you talking about? So you think most people DO buy gil AND items, but people need to stop complaining or this game will become "a crap Korean rmt game" (because god knows only Koreans use RMT and it hasn't been around in English language MMO's since EQ/UO).

I still don't think most people in FFXIV buy gil, nor do I think it is a serious problem given how expensive gil currently is from RMT sites and what comparitively little it will buy you. The best way to earn gil is by far to do it yourself, even if you lack any DoL/DoH or even a level 50 character. As long as that is true I don't consider RMT to be having a serious impact on the economy at all. I wish they would ban more botters and RMT characters because it is cheating, but they aren't exactly ruining the game by any means.

I disagreed with you saying that most MMO players don't buy Gil.

And I agreed that the game right now have a ok economy.
The stop complaining bout Gil was for the other guy. Lol that was little confusing.

Originally Posted by Murugan

Your posts are as confusing as they are angry. What are you talking about? So you think most people DO buy gil AND items, but people need to stop complaining or this game will become "a crap Korean rmt game" (because god knows only Koreans use RMT and it hasn't been around in English language MMO's since EQ/UO).

I still don't think most people in FFXIV buy gil, nor do I think it is a serious problem given how expensive gil currently is from RMT sites and what comparitively little it will buy you. The best way to earn gil is by far to do it yourself, even if you lack any DoL/DoH or even a level 50 character. As long as that is true I don't consider RMT to be having a serious impact on the economy at all. I wish they would ban more botters and RMT characters because it is cheating, but they aren't exactly ruining the game by any means.

The thing that kills me is how would you know if someone bought gil or not without them saying "I buy gil?" Unless you're stalking them every second of every day it's impossible to know, even with stalking their status on lodestone or even pads.

Isn't that just the kind of thing someone who bought gil would say >.>