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  1. #31
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    Mijin Gakure
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dzian View Post
    shouldnt really require a gear set to make a job work. it should be viable with any appropriate gear set. (key word appropriate) part of why i say cover is broken. without the af body you lose the mp regen and in turn thats fairly crippling as for the ost part outmanouvere isn't an overly impressive mp return (sure theres a few exceptions) but for the most part the most viable mp source a paladin has is cover and that forces you to use af. which is kinda why i think it still needs balancing.

    but paladin is certainly much better than it was. few minor tweaks to mp regen giving people the option to use different gear more freely. maybe let them use melded cobalt/sentinals or soemthing without crippling a huge source of there mp.
    Never said it was required. PLD can already keep better hate than War without it. I said that they can make more use of heavy darklight letting them get higher enm gain. You know, cause the endgame gear is supposed to help you.
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    Last edited by Dawiichan; 05-31-2012 at 05:10 AM.

  2. #32
    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawiichan View Post
    Never said it was required. PLD can already keep better hate than War without it. I said that they can make more use of heavy darklight letting them get higher enm gain. You know, cause the endgame gear is supposed to help you.
    But I don't want to look like a tin can. Although I love the stats.
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  3. #33
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    Alerith Rayneheart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawiichan View Post
    Never said it was required. PLD can already keep better hate than War without it. I said that they can make more use of heavy darklight letting them get higher enm gain. You know, cause the endgame gear is supposed to help you.
    The -cure potency is murder on those though. It kills your versatility in a lot of fights... Personally, I don't think it's worth the increased enmity if you can already hold hate. If you're having issues holding hate and not staying alive, ok, use it. But otherwise I don't really think it's the best trade off.
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  4. #34
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    Daniel Fury
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    The -cure potency is murder on those though. It kills your versatility in a lot of fights... Personally, I don't think it's worth the increased enmity if you can already hold hate. If you're having issues holding hate and not staying alive, ok, use it. But otherwise I don't really think it's the best trade off.
    Wrong set. DPS set has -cure potency, the Heavy Darklight set doesn't have that.

    http://mooglebox.com/entries/heavy-d...-gauntlets.php
    ^
    Stats favor PLD over WAR.
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    Last edited by Daniel_Fury; 05-31-2012 at 05:40 AM.

  5. #35
    Player Alerith's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury View Post
    Wrong set. DPS set has -cure potency, the Heavy Darklight set doesn't have that.

    http://mooglebox.com/entries/heavy-d...-gauntlets.php
    ^
    Stats favor PLD over WAR.
    O.o

    Do want.
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  6. #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alerith View Post
    O.o

    Do want.
    Definately worth it. The Flanchard I reckon would best be swapped with Militia Tight's and the ability to use boots but that's just me
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    Quote Originally Posted by MizoreShirayuki View Post
    Greetings!

    First off let me state that I already know there's a myriad of problems with PLD. I know there are lots of threads about the problems still plaguing PLD so I won't go into any of that.

    All I want to know is how/when does SE plan address PLD's issues? A dev. response with actual time frame would be nice considering both 2.0 & PS3 beta are right around the corner and the gap between PLD & WAR is still very vast.

    Thanks!
    Just learn how to play it
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daniel_Fury View Post
    Definately worth it. The Flanchard I reckon would best be swapped with Militia Tight's and the ability to use boots but that's just me
    Fully Agree, those tights are amazing for PLD. Then you can also get boots with it and add HP to it.
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    Ryodi Valhalla
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePatriarch View Post
    i love the people defending pld in its current state. PLD is ok, but I can get on my MRD and do everything twice as good with half the effort.

    These forums are the downfall of this already miserable game
    I'm guessing you can't eat 100 tonze hits as good as PLD, I would estimate that you infact do it 4000 times worse.
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    Duelle Urelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nero View Post
    Then you're in good company. If you dont like the Game, just go an quit.
    He has a good point though, because a group of posters circle-jerking over how skilled they are despite PLD's current design is not going to help the job get ahead in the long run. It took a step in the right direction, but PLD is still far from being fixed and complete.
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    * The sad thing is that FFXIV turned RDM into a turret, and people think that's what it's supposed to be. It's supposed to combine sword and magic into something more, not spend the bulk of gameplay spamming spells and jump into melee for only 3 GCDs before scurrying back to the back line like good little casters.
    * Design ideas:
    Red Mage - COMPLETE (https://tinyurl.com/y6tsbnjh), Chemist - Second Pass (https://tinyurl.com/ssuog88), Thief - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/vdjpkoa), Rune Fencer - First Pass (https://tinyurl.com/y3fomdp2)

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