PLD vs WAR: testing

[Soukyuu]

I would like to point out that 2 whm set up is more for splitting the hate than it is for keeping up with healing.

This is true, however if Paladin really takes 3.5 times less damage, then less healing is required, so WHM is unlikely to be the one who pulls hate if it ever happens.

It's overlooked because off-healing as part of a tank's job is a very bad idea. Between sub-targetting sucking horribly on keyboard+mouse and lack of mouseover macros, you as the tank cannot afford the distraction of looking at health bars and tossing heals.

The HP bars are right below your action bar, might I ask what you are looking at while fighting? I adjusted my UI the way I just stare at my abilities and have mob/my/party hp bars in vision.

You don't even have to look at the numbers if you know how much the hits damage you. You just keep your skill rotation up. This is from a WHM point of view btw, and we have to concentrate on keeping the whole GROUP alive, so if it's possible for a WHM, it should be possible for a PLD too.

I did a quick solo test against multiple monsters all at once. This may not come to a surprise to most, but my conclusion was that Warrior simply out match Paladin when it comes to survivability when fighting multiple enemies.

That's right and I agree, but you're testing it solo. You shouldn't run out of MP that fast in a group.

The biggest bonus of PLD is giving melee a chance of survival while taking less damage thus relieving WHMs and allowing them to throw some heals on the melee too.

So in the end it's just 2 ways of tanking, with people preferring WARs currently.

[Andrien]

That's right and I agree, but you're testing it solo. You shouldn't run out of MP that fast in a group.

The biggest bonus of PLD is giving melee a chance of survival while taking less damage thus relieving WHMs and allowing them to throw some heals on the melee too.

So in the end it's just 2 ways of tanking, with people preferring WARs currently.

If PLD can't survive fighting of multiple enemies solo but WAR can, then there is a balance issue.

I'll do more test later on +Lv50's

[Zantetsuken]

If PLD can't survive fighting of multiple enemies solo but WAR can, then there is a balance issue.

I'll do more test later on +Lv50's

I'm going to disagree with you on this, and here's why:

If PLD is much better at:

A) Tanking single "IT++" mobs

And WAR is much better at:

B) Tanking groups of "VT" mobs

Then both classes have been given a distinct role and tanking style. Furthermore, if both jobs have difficulty fulfilling the other's role, then they are actually balanced quite well.

The unbalancing issue was that WAR dominated both A and B. Since PLD could only do A (and still needed a buff), it didn't have a role in the game and was thus sidelined.

*Sidenote: it seems some players may have wanted PLD and WAR to do both A and B equally well. This erodes class distinction and brings us back further to the universal complaints about the early class system. Thankfully, the devs are trying to push PLD and WAR further apart, rather than closer together.