Is this the BEST they could come up with?

[Rykan]

So....we've all been complaining about it since the launch. This game was a spam-fest nightmare on day one; even our "auto-attacks" had to be initiated manually. Well, we've come a long way, but we're not there yet.

I realize we were all tired of spamming our actions, but I can't BELIEVE this is what SE came up with, for the solution. Rather than INCREASE the duration and CD timers on our actions, they simply cut down the amount of actions we have access to. I mean, seriously, that's THEIR SOLUTION?

Make my job/class even less unique by taking away 60% of our slot options? Were they just trying to salvage this crappy action bar, by cutting down the amount of actions we have available? or was this really their solution to the spam problem?


I don't know, yet, but either way...I'm not impressed. I want Shell back; I want it and Protect to last longer than 30 f@#$ing seconds; I want tons of VERY UNIQUE actions; and I DON'T want to be spamming them every 3 seconds.

[Antanias]

I like the current system, thank you

[Starlord]

I like the current system, thank you

I concur my friend.

[Req]

So....we've all been complaining about it since the launch. This game was a spam-fest nightmare on day one; even our "auto-attacks" had to be initiated manually. Well, we've come a long way, but we're not there yet.

I realize we were all tired of spamming our actions, but I can't BELIEVE this is what SE came up with, for the solution. Rather than INCREASE the duration and CD timers on our actions, they simply cut down the amount of actions we have access to. I mean, seriously, that's THEIR SOLUTION?

Make my job/class even less unique by taking away 60% of our slot options? Were they just trying to salvage this crappy action bar, by cutting down the amount of actions we have available? or was this really their solution to the spam problem?


I don't know, yet, but either way...I'm not impressed. I want Shell back; I want it and Protect to last longer than 30 f@#$ing seconds; I want tons of VERY UNIQUE actions; and I DON'T want to be spamming them every 3 seconds.

The problem was the fact that we had a ton of actions on every class that all did relatively the same thing. There is job uniqueness now I don't know how dont see that. Also, protect lasts for 5 minutes.

[NefarioCall]

i'mreallyexcitedfor2.0

[Nix]

Protect takes care of physical AND magic damage, it also lasts for 5 minutes so there's one wish granted right off the bat

The old system was kinda convoluted I think. . . it was nice to have so many actions but I think now that it's simplified it is a lot smoother. I miss the AoE toggle but that's kinda a non-issue since we've all (re)learned our jobs and whatnot.
People were apprehensive at first, myself included but after settling in with it, it turned out to be a pretty pleasing system. UI woes aside I think it's a lot smoother than it was.

Sad fact is coming in here and chest thumping, yelling your wants won't get you far . You'll attract more flies with honey, why not lay some suggestions down that might improve the system?

[Rykan]

Protect takes care of physical AND magic damage, it also lasts for 5 minutes so there's one wish granted right off the bat

The old system was kinda convoluted I think. . . it was nice to have so many actions but I think now that it's simplified it is a lot smoother. I miss the AoE toggle but that's kinda a non-issue since we've all (re)learned our jobs and whatnot.
People were apprehensive at first, myself included but after settling in with it, it turned out to be a pretty pleasing system. UI woes aside I think it's a lot smoother than it was.

Sad fact is coming in here and chest thumping, yelling your wants won't get you far . You'll attract more flies with honey, why not lay some suggestions down that might improve the system?

I realize that protect does both, but that's really stupid, imo. If he would make the buffs last 30 minutes (like they did in XI), and he made stuff like Defender that lasts "forever" until negated by "Berserk" or recasting, etc....then things wouldn't have been so "convoluted," as you put it. You wouldn't have a problem with so many actions, b/c you'd rarely use them.

As for the 30 second thing, I was exaggerating...

[Answa]

So....we've all been complaining about it since the launch. This game was a spam-fest nightmare on day one; even our "auto-attacks" had to be initiated manually. Well, we've come a long way, but we're not there yet.

I realize we were all tired of spamming our actions, but I can't BELIEVE this is what SE came up with, for the solution. Rather than INCREASE the duration and CD timers on our actions, they simply cut down the amount of actions we have access to. I mean, seriously, that's THEIR SOLUTION?

Make my job/class even less unique by taking away 60% of our slot options? Were they just trying to salvage this crappy action bar, by cutting down the amount of actions we have available? or was this really their solution to the spam problem?


I don't know, yet, but either way...I'm not impressed. I want Shell back; I want it and Protect to last longer than 30 f@#$ing seconds; I want tons of VERY UNIQUE actions; and I DON'T want to be spamming them every 3 seconds.

Tons of very unique actions sounds strangely like an oxymoron. Regardless, most of our old abilities were useless and now I have hardly any occasion where I think an ability is useless. The new system forces you to have your class's abilities, therefore, in keeping with our current action bar, there's a need to limit the amount of abilities to something that fits.

Not only that, but everyone always forgets that this is very assuredly not the end-all of level caps for this game. We're getting more abilities in the future, I'm sure.

[NefarioCall]

...Well, in support of OP,
WE NEED RED MAGE.

[Nix]

I'm not sure why it's stupid? Unless I'm really missing something . . .

1 spell = 2 effects (phys/mag def)= efficient, no?

Saves time, saves mp!


I'm with Answa, before so many abilities was kinda meh but now they are more 'specialized'? (I'm not sure if this is the right word).
Having so many abilities you couldn't fit them on the action bar was a total peeve of mine D: lol, and like 5+ WS that you never used because they were pretty bunk. . . now we have a small handful, combos (yay!) and it's much smoother and more efficient.