Is this the BEST they could come up with?

[Nix]

You're comparing 2 different games with 2 entirely different battle mechanics.

In FFXI, battle was more slow paced, we needed those abilities, not to mention a whole host of buffs and debuffs etc.

In 14 battle is more fast-paced, we aren't even subject to a lot of the same status effects etc, which makes a lot of those actions unnecessary.

The improvement here was simplifying and streamlining job abilities. If you want XI style battles, go play XI, it's really simple no?

Just because things worked in XI doesn't mean they will work here.

[Rykan]

You're comparing 2 different games with 2 entirely different battle mechanics.

In FFXI, battle was more slow paced, we needed those abilities, not to mention a whole host of buffs and debuffs etc.

In 14 battle is more fast-paced, we aren't even subject to a lot of the same status effects etc, which makes a lot of those actions unnecessary.

The improvement here was simplifying and streamlining job abilities. If you want XI style battles, go play XI, it's really simple no?

Just because things worked in XI doesn't mean they will work here.

I would never have left XI, if they didn't raise the cap and throw EVERY bit of content prio to abbysea down the shitter. That stupid a$$ retort to everyone who ever mentions XI is getting really old. If "go back to XI," is your only way to dispute my logic, maybe you should consider leaving the "debates" to those with something productive to contribute to them.


Edit: P.S. Increasing the duration of Protect, and adding Shell....wouldn't disrupt the flow of battle AT ALL. And to w/e person said "Pro/Shell" being combined is more efficient....

Why stop at Pro/Shell? How bout we just press one action, and it conducts the entire fight for us? That would be efficient, right?

[Nix]

I would never have left XI, if they didn't raise the cap and throw EVERY bit of content prio to abbysea down the shitter. That stupid a$$ retort to everyone who ever mentions XI is getting really old. If "go back to XI," is your only way to dispute my logic, maybe you should consider leaving the "debates" to those with something productive to contribute to them.

Yet the only thing you can bring to a debate is "QQ this isn't XI" ohhh dear♪

[Rykan]

I never said anything about dumbed down~ :3 ...

Yet the only thing you can bring to a debate is "QQ this isn't XI" ohhh dear♪

Hardly.....I just use XI as reference b/c it's, practically, "universally known." Everyone knows what I'm talking about, when I mention it.

Anyway, that's EXACTLY what has been done here. EVERYTHING has been dumbed down. You cast ONE spell to buff magic/phys defense. You have only TWO spells to cure a single target with. You have only a FEW WSs that are all DMG-intensive, rather than focusing on "strategic application" via special effects....like "binds target, blinds target, reduces evasion, reduces accuracy, reduces defense" and so on....

And do you know WHY they can't give us TONS of SPELLS and WSs? Because of the CONVOLUTED action bar....

[Starlord]

Hardly.....I just use XI as reference b/c it's, practically, "universally known." Everyone knows what I'm talking about, when I mention it.

Anyway, that's EXACTLY what has been done here. EVERYTHING has been dumbed down. You cast ONE spell to buff magic/phys defense. You have only TWO spells to cure a single target with. You have only a FEW WSs that are all DMG-intensive, rather than focusing on "strategic application" via special effects....like "binds target, blinds target, reduces evasion, reduces accuracy, reduces defense" and so on....

And do you know WHY they can't give us TONS of SPELLS and WSs? Because of the CONVOLUTED action bar....

I honestly don't get your logic:

-WHM/CNJ Protect lasts 5 min ( so what just recast it and your good, gives WHM something more to do besides cure spamming all the time.
-Protect and shell are together.. so what? Is it REALLY that big of a deal to make things a little more convenient? :?
-This is FFXI this is FFXIV nothing wrong with the battle system now
-Auto-attack rules out the "spamming 11111111111" till your blue in the face...

This reminds me of that one Rokien thread.....

Why does Rykan sound almost like.. Rokien......

[Rykan]

I honestly don't get your logic:

-WHM/CNJ Protect lasts 5 min ( so what just recast it and your good, gives WHM something more to do besides cure spamming all the time.
-Protect and shell are together.. so what? Is it REALLY that big of a deal to make things a little more convenient? :?
-This is FFXI this is FFXIV nothing wrong with the battle system now
-Auto-attack rules out the "spamming 11111111111" till your blue in the face...

This reminds me of that one Rokien thread.....

Why does Rykan sound almost like.. Rokien......

That's what Dia and Banish/Holy should be for...giving the whm more to do. Buffing every 5 minutes is just tedious. If all you ppl have so much trouble w/ A.D.D....how bout you just medicate, rather than ruin everyone's gameplay w/ these "positive" comments about this crappy system lol :P

[Starlord]

That's what Dia and Banish/Holy should be for...giving the whm more to do. Buffing every 5 minutes is just tedious. If all you ppl have so much trouble w/ A.D.D....how bout you just medicate, rather than ruin everyone's gameplay w/ these "positive" comments about this crappy system lol :P

Crappy? You and what Army says so?

[Answa]

That's what Dia and Banish/Holy should be for...giving the whm more to do. Buffing every 5 minutes is just tedious. If all you ppl have so much trouble w/ A.D.D....how bout you just medicate, rather than ruin everyone's gameplay w/ these "positive" comments about this crappy system lol :P

WHMs used Banish, and Holy? lawl