Is this the BEST they could come up with?

[Nix]

I would never have left XI, if they didn't raise the cap and throw EVERY bit of content prio to abbysea down the shitter. That stupid a$$ retort to everyone who ever mentions XI is getting really old. If "go back to XI," is your only way to dispute my logic, maybe you should consider leaving the "debates" to those with something productive to contribute to them.

Yet the only thing you can bring to a debate is "QQ this isn't XI" ohhh dear♪

[Rykan]

I never said anything about dumbed down~ :3 ...

Yet the only thing you can bring to a debate is "QQ this isn't XI" ohhh dear♪

Hardly.....I just use XI as reference b/c it's, practically, "universally known." Everyone knows what I'm talking about, when I mention it.

Anyway, that's EXACTLY what has been done here. EVERYTHING has been dumbed down. You cast ONE spell to buff magic/phys defense. You have only TWO spells to cure a single target with. You have only a FEW WSs that are all DMG-intensive, rather than focusing on "strategic application" via special effects....like "binds target, blinds target, reduces evasion, reduces accuracy, reduces defense" and so on....

And do you know WHY they can't give us TONS of SPELLS and WSs? Because of the CONVOLUTED action bar....

[Starlord]

Hardly.....I just use XI as reference b/c it's, practically, "universally known." Everyone knows what I'm talking about, when I mention it.

Anyway, that's EXACTLY what has been done here. EVERYTHING has been dumbed down. You cast ONE spell to buff magic/phys defense. You have only TWO spells to cure a single target with. You have only a FEW WSs that are all DMG-intensive, rather than focusing on "strategic application" via special effects....like "binds target, blinds target, reduces evasion, reduces accuracy, reduces defense" and so on....

And do you know WHY they can't give us TONS of SPELLS and WSs? Because of the CONVOLUTED action bar....

I honestly don't get your logic:

-WHM/CNJ Protect lasts 5 min ( so what just recast it and your good, gives WHM something more to do besides cure spamming all the time.
-Protect and shell are together.. so what? Is it REALLY that big of a deal to make things a little more convenient? :?
-This is FFXI this is FFXIV nothing wrong with the battle system now
-Auto-attack rules out the "spamming 11111111111" till your blue in the face...

This reminds me of that one Rokien thread.....

Why does Rykan sound almost like.. Rokien......

[Rykan]

I honestly don't get your logic:

-WHM/CNJ Protect lasts 5 min ( so what just recast it and your good, gives WHM something more to do besides cure spamming all the time.
-Protect and shell are together.. so what? Is it REALLY that big of a deal to make things a little more convenient? :?
-This is FFXI this is FFXIV nothing wrong with the battle system now
-Auto-attack rules out the "spamming 11111111111" till your blue in the face...

This reminds me of that one Rokien thread.....

Why does Rykan sound almost like.. Rokien......

That's what Dia and Banish/Holy should be for...giving the whm more to do. Buffing every 5 minutes is just tedious. If all you ppl have so much trouble w/ A.D.D....how bout you just medicate, rather than ruin everyone's gameplay w/ these "positive" comments about this crappy system lol :P

[Starlord]

That's what Dia and Banish/Holy should be for...giving the whm more to do. Buffing every 5 minutes is just tedious. If all you ppl have so much trouble w/ A.D.D....how bout you just medicate, rather than ruin everyone's gameplay w/ these "positive" comments about this crappy system lol :P

Crappy? You and what Army says so?

[Rokien]

Crappy? You and what Army says so?

I think I have stated many times this is a pretty terrible system.


Just because spells wern't used ALL the time, doesn't mean they were not helpful in other situations.

It's kinda like armor, when the hell am I going to use defensive armor for a mage? yet there's still armor out there that adds defense for mage. That armor will only be good for some occasions. So why not have those "useless spells" not like you are going to use them anyways, or bother with them. So why take out stuff that can differentiate the good from the bad players.

Like why do we even have multiple sets of armor? That's stupid, most of it is ulsess to me anyways. Lets just get rid of anything that isn't good or that I wont use ever.

[Starlord]

I think I have stated many times this is a pretty terrible system.

Ah, the only 2 that are against this system.. see anyone else in here who hates the system?

( Rykan and Rokien.. either a Seconday name... or they are brothers) :P.

[hrdndv]

I totally agree that stoneskin is almost worthless because it only lasts one hit, usually. It should last five minutes like it promises. I also agree that casting Protect every 5 min is annoying as most battles that use Protect last twenty. But overall, FFXIV is better than XI because you can pay more attention to what's happening and don't get so caught up in deciding which spell to cast next. I never saw a battle in FFXI... only saw the spells I was choosing. I played Red Mage and Blue Mage and loved them... but FFXIV is unique, different, and I like what SE has done. I also see SE changing some things as we go along and although some changes are annoying, most changes are alright after I get used to them. I have a motto for this: If Final Fantasy is not annoying, it isn't Final fantasy! lol

[Starlord]

I totally agree that stoneskin is almost worthless because it only lasts one hit, usually. It should last five minutes like it promises. I also agree that casting Protect every 5 min is annoying as most battles that use Protect last twenty. But overall, FFXIV is better than XI because you can pay more attention to what's happening and don't get so caught up in deciding which spell to cast next. I never saw a battle in FFXI... only saw the spells I was choosing. I played Red Mage and Blue Mage and loved them... but FFXIV is unique, different, and I like what SE has done. I also see SE changing some things as we go along and although some changes are annoying, most changes are alright after I get used to them. I have a motto for this: If Final Fantasy is not annoying, it isn't Final fantasy! lol

Stoneskin itself isn't ment to last 5 min.. Stoneskin is ment for if you get hit.. you get hit for 0 damage ( unless monster hits you more than the allotted damage it can endure, then and only then it hits you for more than 0 damage.) Once you use up the Damage reduction you receive from Stoneskin, the Effect automatically goes away.. if Stoneskin lasted for 5 min... No body would need to cure at all.....

[Answa]

That's what Dia and Banish/Holy should be for...giving the whm more to do. Buffing every 5 minutes is just tedious. If all you ppl have so much trouble w/ A.D.D....how bout you just medicate, rather than ruin everyone's gameplay w/ these "positive" comments about this crappy system lol :P

WHMs used Banish, and Holy? lawl