Please do something about dps survavibility in OC

[AmiableApkallu]

My comment was specifically referring to the unavoidable party wides or damage the OP and you are mentioning. It makes healers still relevant. And it generates issues in supposedly role agnostic content as the OP mentioned.

Is Occult Cresent supposed to be role agnostic? I admit that I might have missed that citation.

That aside, scheduled, unavoidable raidwides are basically "DDR slop" as you like to call it. Holding that up as an example that makes "healers still relevant" is like saying bosses having HP bars makes "DPS still relevant." Technically true, but meaningless in terms of interesting gameplay.

[Supersnow845]

Is Occult Cresent supposed to be role agnostic? I admit that I might have missed that citation.

That aside, scheduled, unavoidable raidwides are basically "DDR slop" as you like to call it. Holding that up as an example that makes "healers still relevant" is like saying bosses having HP bars makes "DPS still relevant." Technically true, but meaningless in terms of interesting gameplay.

I think it’s more people expected OC to be role agnostic because it’s basically built that way but then they just decided to not actually do anything with it

Take Bozja but instead of bringing particular lost actions you instead bring a “job” to compliment your actual job. Playing a DPS? Bring a tank job for more survivability. Etc

However every phantom job is just a flavour of do more damage without accounting for how “every phantom job is a DPS increase” tilts in favour of doing everything as a tank

[Valence]

Is Occult Cresent supposed to be role agnostic? I admit that I might have missed that citation.

That aside, scheduled, unavoidable raidwides are basically "DDR slop" as you like to call it. Holding that up as an example that makes "healers still relevant" is like saying bosses having HP bars makes "DPS still relevant." Technically true, but meaningless in terms of interesting gameplay.

I'm not necessarily saying it is role agnostic, but I'm saying that it's not role restricted either. This is not very different from old Frontlines before the introduction of field elixirs and recuperate and the modern pvp rework, where winning without a healer was a pipe dream, and having two or three would dramatically help, so people had to "bite the bullet for the team". Sometimes nobody did though, and you ended up in a similar situation, minus the tanks being invulnerable.

As some others have already mentioned above, not having logograms or lost actions to make up for your chosen job lacking specific role abilities, makes it a potential problem of OC compared to Eureka or Bozja.

I don't ever recall using the word "DDR slop". I never or barely use that word unlike all the memers here. You probably have me confused with someone else. But it's funny nonetheless to have become the embodiment of DDR on those forums considering the amount of people using it - may I talk to you about our lady and savior Mao?