Here we go again

[Jeeqbit]

I have to say, much to my shame, I pretty much kissed the floor straight up by trying to dash out. Despite the boss telling you cannot leave (who was listening anyway), and Barbie being one of my fave fights. I should have known better, but did I? Hell no! I was laughing so hard.

I did that too. I mean, usually it's see tether and run so when it pulls you, you don't get hit. Usually it's that simple so only realized after it's to prevent me leaving. I think part of it is because I know they are capable of actually making an invisible wall or deathwall so I can't leave, but they went with this method instead.

[Kahnha]

Square should make the trust NPCs max ilv and allow them to res the player it would make peps feel closer to the scions for ex and it saves a person that is doing trust time (the main reason I nvr tried trust players are often faster).

[Kohashi]

I did that too. I mean, usually it's see tether and run so when it pulls you, you don't get hit. Usually it's that simple so only realized after it's to prevent me leaving. I think part of it is because I know they are capable of actually making an invisible wall or deathwall so I can't leave, but they went with this method instead.

That was my exact line of thinking as well when it came to the teether. I would have rolled on the floor if that was a straight-up death wall..lol. They should have made that + the boss mocking you haha.

I like how the NPC is calling out for healing and rezzes in the new Alliance raid..

[FlorineC]

The game can do better[/url]. And slowing mechanics down a smidge isn't going to ruin things[/url].

I think this gets back to the question of where do the devs draw the line. Sure slowing mechanics down a half second will be the make or break point for some people who couldn't do the mechanic before but can now, but it'll also be the make or break point for where some people enjoyed the mechanic before but find it boring now, and it still leaves an amount of people who can't do the mechanic in time. So do you move that line all the way to one end to the point that there's no fail state so that everyone can complete every msq mechanic with no difficulty, regardless of how it affects the engagement of other players? That's certainly a valid philosophy, though I'm not sure it's any more valid than putting the line somewhere in the middle. I would love if the devs put in an easy mode, but it's clear that at the time they either don't have the resources or they've chosen to allocate them elsewhere, so we're stuck with a compromise that will inevitably leave both some players too bored to continue playing, and other players too frustrated to continue playing.

As an aside I'm someone who genuinely and strongly believes that the nature of this game is such that barring severe disability, literally anyone can do any content in this game, all the way up to Ultimate raids, if they have the desire and the patience to learn and practice. Obviously this will take different amounts of time and effort for different people, but there's nothing so demanding or precise even in the toughest of Ultimates that it can't be overcome by anyone with study and practice. So by extension I believe that normal mode MSQ content isn't beyond the capabilities of anyone willing to put the effort in. Now if someone decides they don't want to put the effort in and quits the game instead, then hey that's their prerogative and I hope they have more fun with whatever they play next. But I don't think it's anywhere near a ridiculous ask or for some people to sometimes fail a couple times, evaluate what was going wrong, and figure out how to fix it. This isn't Dark Souls or Sekiro where dodges and parries need to be hit with the precision of a handful of frames. We're talking 3-9 seconds to react to something that you know is coming up because of the scripted nature of fights in this game. You know when the serial torture cast bar shows up that you're gonna have to dodge a set of blades, a spike ball, then another set of blades and a donut aoe. I'm not saying it's going to be easy for every single player, but it's not so precise or demanding that literally anyone can't do it with some time, thought, and practice, and I don't think the game should necessarily be designed around people who are unable or unwilling to put that into the game.

[PharisHanasaki]

I mean, I have astigmatism, so I shouldn't be on the road in the first place and have in fact never had a driver's license despite being almost 42.

But the way some people in here act, I should be locked away in my home not even allowed to take the bus or get a car ride from someone else because that would be "easy mode" or giving me an "instant I win" button for basic transportation. Or hell, they probably think eyeglasses/surgery are a literal "cheat code" given their unhinged mentality about how wrong and terrible they think accessibility options are, lmao.

Honestly, it's starting to feel like you're missing the point on purpose.
I have astigmatism. I got a driver's license since I was 26, when I got my own car.
I use glasses, and yes I do not drive without them for my own safety and that of the people around me.

You're not asking to hitch a ride here, you are basically going to the government to complain that you have to take the bus and thus take a longer time to get from point A to point B,

You argue that it is unfair that you cannot move as fast as people with their own cars, so you demand faster transportation, or that they accommodate to send you a car to your house to be able to reach point B in the same amount of time as the rest of the people because it is not your fault that you decided not to drive (or are somehow unable to, astigmatism is not an excuse not to drive).

[Mawlzy]

I mean, I have astigmatism, so I shouldn't be on the road in the first place and have in fact never had a driver's license despite being almost 42.

The funny thing is that what began as yet another insult is pretty much on the mark.

I drove for many years and decided to quit when I could only continue with a special dispensation from an optometrist. I decided if that was necessary I'd probably be a danger to myself and others, so quit.

But thinking about it, driving stick safely in city traffic and clearing DT dungeons does require similar skills. Knowledge of the rules, observation, information processing, and reaction.

The US comeback to this will be "but nearly everyone can drive stick in city traffic." Based on what I see here in Vegas, I'd strongly suggest many should not be. In Europe, there's far less of an expectation that everyone can drive.

Probably not a coincidence that per capita driving deaths in the US are 50% higher than Canada, Australia, Japan and Western Europe.

As an aside I'm someone who genuinely and strongly believes that the nature of this game is such that barring severe disability, literally anyone can do any content in this game, all the way up to Ultimate raids, if they have the desire and the patience to learn and practice.

This simply illustrates how out of touch you are.

I thought you had other better MMO's to be playing that require no thought or effort. What are you doing dooming on this one still?

Asked and answered. Squeezing value out of my sub.

And if you really think EVE Online requires no thought or effort, you've never played it.

[Ser_Arven]

The funny thing is that what began as yet another insult is pretty much on the mark.

I drove for many years and decided to quit when I could only continue with a special dispensation from an optometrist. I decided if that was necessary I'd probably be a danger to myself and others, so quit.

But thinking about it, driving stick safely in city traffic and clearing DT dungeons does require similar skills. Knowledge of the rules, observation, information processing, and reaction.

The US comeback to this will be "but nearly everyone can drive stick in city traffic." Based on what I see here in Vegas, I'd strongly suggest many should not be. In Europe, there's far less of an expectation that everyone can drive.

Probably not a coincidence that per capita driving deaths in the US are 50% higher than Canada, Australia, Japan and Western Europe.



This simply illustrates how out of touch you are.

I thought you had other better MMO's to be playing that require no thought or effort. What are you doing dooming on this one still?

[Ankhira]

Honestly, it's starting to feel like you're missing the point on purpose.
I have astigmatism. I got a driver's license since I was 26, when I got my own car.
I use glasses, and yes I do not drive without them for my own safety and that of the people around me.

You're not asking to hitch a ride here, you are basically going to the government to complain that you have to take the bus and thus take a longer time to get from point A to point B,

You argue that it is unfair that you cannot move as fast as people with their own cars, so you demand faster transportation, or that they accommodate to send you a car to your house to be able to reach point B in the same amount of time as the rest of the people because it is not your fault that you decided not to drive (or are somehow unable to, astigmatism is not an excuse not to drive).

You’re being incredibly judgmental toward someone whose situation you don’t fully understand. Just because astigmatism doesn’t stop you from driving doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone. People have different experiences, limitations, and reasons for the choices they make and it’s not okay to speak so definitively about someone else’s life from the outside.

[PharisHanasaki]

You’re being incredibly judgmental toward someone whose situation you don’t fully understand. Just because astigmatism doesn’t stop you from driving doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone. People have different experiences, limitations, and reasons for the choices they make and it’s not okay to speak so definitively about someone else’s life from the outside.

Oh, my bad, I thought I read "I mean, I have astigmatism, so I shouldn't be on the road in the first place and have in fact never had a driver's license despite being almost 42."

So my logical conclusion was you said "astigmatism is the reason you shouldn't be on the road". How is that judgemental on my part when I have the same affliction? In fact, if you google it it reads: Astigmatism is a common vision condition where the eye's cornea or lens has an uneven curvature, causing blurred or distorted vision at all distances.

Sorry I'm not one to blindly take arguments that make no sense.

[Ser_Arven]

You’re being incredibly judgmental toward someone whose situation you don’t fully understand. Just because astigmatism doesn’t stop you from driving doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone. People have different experiences, limitations, and reasons for the choices they make and it’s not okay to speak so definitively about someone else’s life from the outside.

People are saying that the devs need to draw a line and they have. It doesn't matter what challenges you have my wife has autism, ADHD and Dyslexia but raids Ultimate.

I know everyone is dofferent but the expectation needs to be that by level 100 you can do a basic dungeon. Rezzes in trusts are an "I win" button because NPC's will do the mechanics for you and you'll be raised and win.

You may pretend this is a visual novel but it isn't. Every RPG expects you to master the systems to a minimum and this is the minimum. There is nothing here that anyone cannot learn with dying a few times and learning from each mistake. Absoutley nothing. The problem is that people use whatever reasons they can to avoid being told that "accessibility" and "entitlement" are the same in this situation. The game will not and should not change for a few people.