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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valence View Post
    If the only way you have to grind tomes is fate trains, then I pity you?
    And acting like tomes is equivalent to “achieve it however you want” is also completely disingenuous because ratio of earned tomes to effort put in is so tilted to particular activities that you basically grief yourself to do anything else and of those activities 90% of them amount to general daily tasks anyway

    Like even ARR light step understood that more effort should give more but relics=tomestones basically amounts to “do your daily’s then spam hunt trains”, sure you CAN do EO but the rate of tomes from EO is so hilariously low as an example it’s not an incentive or a pick you own adventure, it’s a pity reward for doing something you were already going to do even if you didn’t have a relic to make
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Sunie Dakwhil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    And acting like tomes is equivalent to “achieve it however you want” is also completely disingenuous because ratio of earned tomes to effort put in is so tilted to particular activities that you basically grief yourself to do anything else and of those activities 90% of them amount to general daily tasks anyway

    Like even ARR light step understood that more effort should give more but relics=tomestones basically amounts to “do your daily’s then spam hunt trains”, sure you CAN do EO but the rate of tomes from EO is so hilariously low as an example it’s not an incentive or a pick you own adventure, it’s a pity reward for doing something you were already going to do even if you didn’t have a relic to make
    People wanted things to grind. You either have a system where:

    1) Fate trains to grind, nothing else.
    Or
    2) Tome grind, which can be fate/hunt trains for optimal output, or other things.

    Like, I'm not saying every activity behind tomes is especially stellar, but I can't see a world where 1) would even prove superior to 2) in any regard. I'd certainly like them to give us more engaging systems to make relics with, but at least with tomes I can grind them however the fuck I want.
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