OC is a soulless cash grab designed for sub retention and is not fun

[Granyala]

I’d even prefer if they changed it so that after the initial 3 atma each new relic cost one atma of each type rather than tomes

You can farm tomes from CE's so do enlighten me: where is the actual difference between Atma and tomes? Apart from the fact that you can farm tomes in a wide variety of content, from Fates to high end raids. While atmas lock you to Fates and CE's.

Are you a gambling addict and need that RNG drop or sth?

[Supersnow845]

You can farm tomes from CE's so do enlighten me: where is the actual difference between Atma and tomes? Apart from the fact that you can farm tomes in a wide variety of content, from Fates to high end raids. While atmas lock you to Fates and CE's.

Are you a gambling addict and need that RNG drop or sth?

No I just think the item you use to make the relics should be tied to the relics, not “pick it up from Rowena”

They could change it so after the first atma grind each new relic cost 500 atma shards of each colour with atma shards being guaranteed drops in batches of 5/10/20 whatever. Just make it somewhat relevant to the quest other than “hey Rowena sells it as usual”

But in the absence of that system I’d rather it use more atma than tomes

[Y2K21]

No I just think the item you use to make the relics should be tied to the relics, not “pick it up from Rowena”

They could change it so after the first atma grind each new relic cost 500 atma shards of each colour with atma shards being guaranteed drops in batches of 5/10/20 whatever. Just make it somewhat relevant to the quest other than “hey Rowena sells it as usual”

But in the absence of that system I’d rather it use more atma than tomes

You should know by now that the only choices you have are Tome weapon 2.0 or Slot Machine.

[yesnt]

No I just think the item you use to make the relics should be tied to the relics, not “pick it up from Rowena”

You know, I've always wondered why they didn't involve crafting in the relics instead of just letting Gerolt do the work for us. Could make a great exchange between people who like combat and people who like crafting, preferably without just tossing it on MB, but creating some kind of interactive interface for this. Not that this would happen anyway, but one can dream.

[Supersnow845]

You know, I've always wondered why they didn't involve crafting in the relics instead of just letting Gerolt do the work for us. Could make a great exchange between people who like combat and people who like crafting, preferably without just tossing it on MB, but creating some kind of interactive interface for this. Not that this would happen anyway, but one can dream.

They did this with the anima relics

Remember at the start of them there was a step that was like “ask people in game for how to obtain these items”. Well one of the multiple methods was crafting (diadem was another as was extremes and one of two others I can’t remember)

People hated the idea at the time because old crafting was a complete nightmare (anyone remember whistle while you work) but I think it would go down okay now even though we have crafter relics. Though the popularity of crafting is still debatable

[VeyaAkemi]

You know, I've always wondered why they didn't involve crafting in the relics instead of just letting Gerolt do the work for us. Could make a great exchange between people who like combat and people who like crafting, preferably without just tossing it on MB, but creating some kind of interactive interface for this. Not that this would happen anyway, but one can dream.

They sorta did in ARR, with you needing to craft a number of HQ weapons for one of the early steps, but there is a point they want to stick to that Gerolt will always be a better Blacksmith than you, just like how Godbert will always be a better Goldsmith than you, so to make absolute peak, which the relics are always going to be lorewise, you need the help of people like them. Whether that's a good thing or not is a different discussion, but it's the angle they approach these things from.

I also don't know why they stopped with the crafted step after ARR, but maybe people complained about it, I dunno, I wasn't there.

[TaleraRistain]

They sorta did in ARR, with you needing to craft a number of HQ weapons for one of the early steps, but there is a point they want to stick to that Gerolt will always be a better Blacksmith than you, just like how Godbert will always be a better Goldsmith than you, so to make absolute peak, which the relics are always going to be lorewise, you need the help of people like them. Whether that's a good thing or not is a different discussion, but it's the angle they approach these things from.

I also don't know why they stopped with the crafted step after ARR, but maybe people complained about it, I dunno, I wasn't there.

There was an option to use DoH for crystal sand in HW too. There were plenty of complaints over ARR and HW relics but it changed because they decided to do the stupid "tie the relic to this field content zone" idea that started with Stormblood.