Quote Originally Posted by Voidmage View Post
Telling people to suck it up and just do the old treadmill, Hildibrand that was… 30 minutes at the start and one of the most boring beasttribes with three quests a day while high end raiders didn’t go even one patch (and with the field zone even got one more raid) without content for them
I wasn't just saying just Hildibrand and the beast tribe, but the beast tribe and custom delivery is spaced out and something to occupy a casual amount of time. I mentioned hunts, FATEs and PvP Series because I know lots and lots of people who don't raid that do and enjoy these things. I say it only because I personally did these things myself and enjoyed them.

I'm also not saying they couldn't or shouldn't add other content to occupy time like the Field Operation. I'm just saying that outside of the forums, people just do the aforementioned content and seem happy with it contrary to how the OP presents it. I actually do not get the sense players are "exhausted" as described, and my guess for why that is, is because the majority of those exhausted unsubscribed earlier in the last year or before.
At some points it seems that they either have lost passion outside a few members (you can see the “love” still in the music, fights and a few gear pieces and graphic highlights), have no idea what they want themselves or have delegated the newer devs to this game while all others do other things.
I don't believe they have lost passion at all, but it's true they have added a lot of new developers (and have been doing a big recruitment for important jobs lately like writing and programming). However, Yoshi-P has consistently said that a lot of the developers now were once players.

I think part of the issue ultimately must be the arduous process of approvals and procedures they have to go through in order to do anything that isn't the status quo, or they are just too afraid to ask if they can do anything that isn't the status quo, or doing it would be difficult because different departments are responsible for different tasks even if one person could handle the entire set of tasks which would make it simpler. I can't think of a better explanation at this point, when independent developers don't have these struggles over a 10 year period.
Quote Originally Posted by Gurgeh View Post
Yes, you are missing the point then, twice.
I only responded to your own sentences.
You need be to be focusing on how much fun people who 'don't' do PF content are having.
So I need to focus on how much fun people who don't play the game are having? Got it...
Like we're you public PF, or are were you using a discord PF?
Just PF.
Most PFs don't go to voice. I've only ever seen two true public PF go to voice.
You are in the EU region. There are multiple languages in the EU. As such, voice is difficult, because it requries all the players there to be able to understand what is being said (verbally). It's different in the NA region because almost everyone universally speaks English. While it's rare in the NA region too, it's far more common than "twice". I mean, I killed Zalenia Extreme almost 100 times and plenty of them did drop discord links. Maybe 20-40%? I don't really track the percentage. It's optional to join, but I always do it.