fflogs and privacy

[Dzian]

In order for fflogs to efficiently work as intended, sadly it cannot be an opt in thing. They need to scan every single person in the party of the person who is uploading that log because they need to verify that they all played legitimately. They have a system to detect if anyone used certain cheats to gain damage advantages and if a single person in that party did, everyone benefited from that so they will invalidate the entire log. They need to know how much RDPS ppl gained from others from their raid buffs etc. There is no way they just can't scan everyone in the party's numbers. There's a reason they do things the way they do and it isn't to harm anyone. Don't blame the website. It's simply supposed to be a tool for ppl who want to improve and push themselves further, blame the brainrotted ppl who use the tool for their clownery. Also, removing fflogs would kill the raid scene, and SE is well aware of this fact so it's not going anywhere. It's been here since the beginning and it will be til the day the game shuts down.

Not at all. All it needs is to anonymize the data. Oh look this parse contains data regarding Blackmage Bob. He did 10k dps in encounter x. But isn't registered on fflogs and hasn't opted in. So now it says "Unregistered Blackmage" did 10k. The data collected is the exact same all that's changed is player names are hidden. Doesn't impact data integrity at all.

[Lilapop]

Not at all. All it needs is to anonymize the data. Oh look this parse contains data regarding Blackmage Bob. He did 10k dps in encounter x. But isn't registered on fflogs and hasn't opted in. So now it says "Unregistered Blackmage" did 25k. The data collected is the exact same all that's changed is player names are hidden. Doesn't impact data integrity at all.

But then how would anyone harass anyone? Think, Dzian!!!

[BigCheez]

Not at all. All it needs is to anonymize the data. Oh look this parse contains data regarding Blackmage Bob. He did 10k dps in encounter x. But isn't registered on fflogs and hasn't opted in. So now it says "Unregistered Blackmage" did 25k. The data collected is the exact same all that's changed is player names are hidden. Doesn't impact data integrity at all.

It would make tomestone pretty useless and enable prog lying, for one.

[Lilapop]

It would make tomestone pretty useless and enable prog lying, for one.

Are you saying prog lying isn't a thing right now...?

[SweetestLily]

Not at all. All it needs is to anonymize the data. Oh look this parse contains data regarding Blackmage Bob. He did 10k dps in encounter x. But isn't registered on fflogs and hasn't opted in. So now it says "Unregistered Blackmage" did 10k. The data collected is the exact same all that's changed is player names are hidden. Doesn't impact data integrity at all.

this is true, but i was more referencing the person who said they did not wish to be scanned at all. i understand ppl want to be anonymous and not be able to be looked up. But i personally, (and i know most other raiders do) find hidden logs to be a bit suspicious. Either hiding the fact you arent pulling your weight, or bought clears

[AvoSturmfaust]

If someone is worried about being "harassed" using FFLogs, then IDK - maybe they should spend 5 minutes learning how their job works so they aren't so catastrophically bad at the game that they consider the information to be harassment. I'm not sure why we're acting like this is something that people are powerless to change when they have a lot of options.

This exactly this, people dont wanna learn the job or anything but are expecting other people to carry their asses and then cry if someone says something.