fflogs and privacy

[brinn12]

Square knows about FFLogs and they will never do anything against it and that is completly finea

How can you call this "completely fine"? Square can invalidate any player complaint due to these tools not being official. Although uncommon, they've already done so: "we have different numbers". The playerbase always indirectly admits using third party tools when they ask for changes, which is against the ToS. Most of the times, Square turns a blind eye when answering. It feels like two groups of children having a conversation.

While the third party website doesn't want to hide people's nicknames, their profile being private by default would be very easy to achieve. We need an official FFXIV tool, and anything different is far from "completely fine", so long as Square keeps the same stance towards ACT.

[AvoSturmfaust]

How can you call this "completely fine"? Square can invalidate any player complaint due to these tools not being official. Although uncommon, they've already done so: "we have different numbers". The playerbase always indirectly admits using third party tools when they ask for changes, which is against the ToS. Most of the times, Square turns a blind eye when answering. It feels like two groups of children having a conversation.

While the third party website doesn't want to hide people's nicknames, their profile being private by default would be very easy to achieve. We need an official FFXIV tool, and anything different is far from "completely fine", so long as Square keeps the same stance towards ACT.

Its fine for me because im used to it, Final is the last Game which is kinda "primitive" Eso allows Mods even goes so far to Support in the Future Mods on Consoles, WoW allows Mods, so many MMO allowing Mods because thats something where the feature in MMOs are, only Final refuses it "Official" while lets be real, they dont really care like i said earlier


And the biggest Issue is not "ACT" or "FFLogs" its the Crybabys which are scared of to get kicked out of a Group because of the Logs while refusing to even try to IMPROVE.

[brinn12]

And the biggest Issue is not "ACT" or "FFLogs" its the Crybabys which are scared of to get kicked out of a Group because of the Logs while refusing to even try to IMPROVE.

Just keep in mind that people like you are the reason we don't have ACT in FFXIV. Probably never will. And any instance of using it is illegal, while other MMOs either have it or allow third party usage, like you pointed out. You're being part of the problem, not the people you're referring to.

[CaedemSanguis]

Just keep in mind that people like you are the reason we don't have ACT in FFXIV. Probably never will. And any instance of using it is illegal, while other MMOs either have it or allow third party usage, like you pointed out. You're being part of the problem, not the people you're referring to.

In terms of usage, it’s like ACT is legal

I bet at least 80-90% of the Ex/Savage/Ultimate pf you join, someone have ACT running

Even if SE makes ACT legal, harassment will still not be allowed

[Lilapop]

And the biggest Issue is not "ACT" or "FFLogs" its the Crybabys which are scared of to get kicked out of a Group because of the Logs while refusing to even try to IMPROVE.

What about the people who don't care about their logs... are they also a "crybaby" in your definition? Because, nobody likes being kicked out of groups, I don't think you'd react positively to it either.

[AvoSturmfaust]

What about the people who don't care about their logs... are they also a "crybaby" in your definition? Because, nobody likes being kicked out of groups, I don't think you'd react positively to it either.

I would accept it, is my Playstyle or my "Skill" not the Standard certain Groups want, then i accept it and move on instead of going to the Forum and complain about FFLogs, you cant force your way in a group if your standard is not the same as the group standard

im not a top player either not even close to it, but i carry my own weight and i expect the same from everyone, if you wanna do content carry your own weight if you cant dont expect to get carried and be mad if you get kiicked

[CaedemSanguis]

What about the people who don't care about their logs... are they also a "crybaby" in your definition? Because, nobody likes being kicked out of groups, I don't think you'd react positively to it either.

Well if you dont care about your logs you should not join EX+ pf

[Asari5]

the problem are the extreme ends on both sides. its not just one of them.

[Collin_Sky]

So good logs = good player, bad logs = bad player...? Yikes.

I said nothing about logs. I said not caring about your performance.

[Aravell]

Not everyone has problems with the numbers site because they don't want to improve. In addition to percentage numbers, people are also kicking people for many other things that they should have no way of knowing, like number of clears/prog point/boss HP%.

Like for example, let's say I'm extremely confident in mechanic C and don't make any mistakes during it, so I go and join a prog PF for mechanic D, but I get kicked because I've never seen mechanic D due to the fact that my party keeps wiping to someone not doing mechanic C properly and so boss never starts casting mechanic D.

Or another example, let's say I clear savage week 1 and want to clear for my alt too, so I join a clear PF and get kicked because I have no logged amount of prog on that character. Does that mean I should go and join prog PFs even though I gain no benefit from it at all?