Frontlines: There should not be ANY rewards for 2nd or 3rd place

[Archeron]

Why we just cant agrees with fact ff14 not PvP game, and as i know never was. Its a bit weird expect a lot of nice PvP content in game, what isnt target audience of the game.

Why is it weird to expect Square Enix to put nice content into their billion dollar game? I mean honestly can ANYONE explain this logic? Just because it's not the focus for this game doesn't mean it's okay to add content to the game that sucks, and then neglect it for six months or more at a time. There is nothing radical about these solutions. These are actual solutions implemented by other games that have added PvP content to an otherwise PvE focused game. Where the PvP is actually fun, and retains a dedicated audience. It's not like there are other MMORPG's on the market that have figured out how to make enjoyable PvP for years at this point.

A striking example of such experience is today Onsal. Yellow team just obtained free three nodes and afking around it and getting free 300+ points without pvp, when our team fighting vs red all this time. None of the lagging teams decided to concede, and this continued until the triangle disappeared. As a monk i just /huming first 5 minutes of the match, beacuse, what i should to do? Call in ally chat? Blame on them? Team anyway didnt react. The players had already consciously decided to give the round to yellow (which later happened).

You have openly admitted yourself to lethargic gameplay. You are ACTIVELY a part of the problem. Instead of trying to assist your team, ping them, or even going into battle regardless and assisting them as best as possible despite the grim situation, you sat and AFK'd at spawn doing nothing. Even if a loss is guaranteed, you can at least fight for second place. Your actions are against the spirit of competitive PvP. This is the gameplay that deserves to be punished. You claim that the developers are aware of the situation, I question that they're even aware of anything going on in PvP at all. They have been making out of touch, nonsensical changes since 6.1 dropped years ago, and ignoring issues that actively made the game worse for everyone. There are a laundry list of examples we can pick from to perfectly illustrate this.