#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rolder50]

Gettin pretty close to 1000 pages innit. And healers only get worse.

[Kacho_Nacho]

Gettin pretty close to 1000 pages innit. And healers only get worse.

986 pages and 9857 posts. At this point, it is clear Creative Studio III is going out of its way to ignore us. There is no way the forum moderators would not mentioned this thread to someone.

[Aravell]

986 pages and 9857 posts. At this point, it is clear Creative Studio III is going out of its way to ignore us. There is no way the forum moderators would not mentioned this thread to someone.

I feel like the fact that the playerbase happily blames other parts of the community for any faults they see with the game means that SE can eternally hide behind their shield of "Players don't know what they want and can't agree on anything, that's why we can't change anything!".

I think if we're capable of presenting a united front of "We want changes for this thing because it's just badly designed, we don't care about the details, just change it", that would be much harder to ignore.

Unfortunately, trying to get the community to present a united front is effectively impossible (because people understandably put importance on different things, like some people want everything just balanced with 0% deviation with no regard to fun), so we're unlikely to see any changes until the dev team does their experiment in 8.0.

[Kes13a]

Unfortunately, trying to get the community to present a united front is effectively impossible (because people understandably put importance on different things, like some people want everything just balanced with 0% deviation with no regard to fun), so we're unlikely to see any changes until the dev team does their experiment in 8.0.

I doubt the "8.0 experiment" will be all that much of a change. whether or not we all agree on the same thing, as consumers of the game, the fact that a single thread has gotten this large with zero acknowledgement from SE tells me they are in their ivory tower, healing in their mind is perfect and needs no changes. thats fine, they are entitled to think that, and once I feel thy no longer earn my money, I will stop giving it to them. I have left far bigger games than 14, and never looked back.

[Kacho_Nacho]

I feel like the fact that the player base happily blames other parts of the community for any faults they see with the game means that SE can eternally hide behind their shield of "Players don't know what they want and can't agree on anything, that's why we can't change anything!"

Hey! I apologized!

/em sticks out tongue

I think if we're capable of presenting a united front of "We want changes for this thing because it's just badly designed, we don't care about the details, just change it", that would be much harder to ignore.

Unfortunately, trying to get the community to present a united front is effectively impossible (because people understandably put importance on different things, like some people want everything just balanced with 0% deviation with no regard to fun), so we're unlikely to see any changes until the dev team does their experiment in 8.0.

Yeah, trying to herd healers is like herding cats. We're a chaotic good bunch.

But, I feel, collectively, the healer community has done pretty well in conveying how unhappy we are with the current state of our jobs and roles in this expansion.

Yes, there have been trolls, some of them quite determined to derail our movement. But, if the mods ever got around to deleting those posts, you'd see we've been pretty united.

Yoshi has said there won't be any real changes until 8.0. So, I wasn't expecting a mid expansion overhaul of the white mage, scholar, astrologian, and sage jobs.

But, it would still be nice to have #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE acknowledged. Even a statement along the lines of "We've heard you and your concerns will be taken into account when we make changes to the jobs in the next expansion," would somewhat allay our fears healers will remain in their current state or worse.

[Lorika]

But, it would still be nice to have #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE acknowledged. Even a statement along the lines of "We've heard you and your concerns will be taken into account when we make changes to the jobs in the next expansion," would somewhat allay our fears healers will remain in their current state or worse.

This is the thing : they won't aknowledge the healer state because, it would be the same as aknowledging that their beloved tank and some of their beloverd DPS are too OP and need to be nerfed. And also, that they used Powercreep to try to hide thoses facts (but,too bad for them : It didn't work for this Add-on).

And seriously, who still believe in the 8.0 at this point?

I wouldn't be surprised if the healer role disapear and the current healer become either DPS or Support job.

[Kacho_Nacho]

*snippity snip*

And seriously, who still believe in the 8.0 at this point?

I wouldn't be surprised if the healer role disappear and the current healer become either DPS or Support job.

I remain optimistic about 8.0. It's far too early to discount it. We'll have to wait until the big reveal of the next expansion before we truly know if it has been all a smokescreen or not.

I doubt they'll erase the healer role completely.

[Lorika]

I doubt they'll erase the healer role completely.

When you look at the 7.0 Monk and at the Picto (Earth Reply and Starry Muse), it smell like the GW2 Route (Add War Shake It off and some of the dancer skill, and it smell the GW2 route even more)

[HyperiusUltima]

We'll have to wait until the big reveal of the next expansion

Ah yes - wait and see how they're going to keep healers in the status quo and not change a damn thing; or break SCH(Stormblood), or make AST a monster like has been for the past 6 years every expac, or keep WHM boring and heavily uninteresting.

While I haven't been as vocal, I have been watching - and I'm in the boat along with a few others that nothing will change so long as they never listen. The 'wait and see' crowd is already smokescreen for 'we're going to give you more heal bloat!' next expansion since that's what they've always done - even though they've tacked on a button to the 2m window here. And when the Healer community figures out that they've been had again after waiting and seeing, they'll get angry again while SE doesn't listen for the next 10 years.

6 years of waiting and seeing, only to see that the waiting is basically SE stonewalling us in every aspect while Tanks and DPS are the only jobs that matter.

[Alice_Rivers]

I wouldn't be surprised if the healer role disapear and the current healer become either DPS or Support job.

This is more or less what I expect of them, it feels like when a government wants to get rid of something people like - They make it terrible, people complain that they made it terrible, "we understand that this is terrible so we're getting rid of it".