Out of touch? PLL

[Miki_L]

One thing I find interesting is the mindset by many hardcore/raider content players is the pure disdain for the casual playerbase, when the foundation of this game and its success is thanks to the casuals. This whole "casuals are ruining the game" mentality is going to be real neat to see put into practice when many of us who have played for over a decade peace out. Let's truly see what happens to FFXIV if Yoshi P and team truly go all in on hard content and catering to the small (yet vocal) hardcore playerbase. I think you are going to find it very lonely by 8.0.

FFXIV still exists today because of the long history of casual content and players. You should be THANKING us for still putting up with the BS and sticking around even though the content is shifting to where the game is obviously no longer being developed for us. Of course, players who love hard content will gaslight and say, "It's your own resistance to hard content that is making the game unappealing." Well, no. I don't play this game to be frustrated or stressed and to play hard stuff. I play it for the story and experiences outside of extremes, savages, etc. So, if a bulk of the new content is going to be that...I am being left out by what is being developed.

Apparently, us casuals, should just quit, or shut up and be happy with doing an alliance raid weekly and our dailies until spring and the handful of MSQ quests that will take an hour less. Well, let's see how many of us put up with it. The very player base some of you complain about and hate, may be the very ones that keep your game afloat so you have your super hard experiences to enjoy.

You're complaining that raiders somehow made the casual content more boring? The casual content became more boring because casuals put in zero effort. The raiders were the first to claim this and then lo and behold a few expansions later the casual opinion caught up and they realized that they want to actually play a fun game. Raiders are getting more content tailored to them because they actually give feedback, something casuals have not done. They just worshipped the developers and it took a shitty MSQ to change their opinion.

[DynnDiablos]

You're complaining that raiders somehow made the casual content more boring? The casual content became more boring because casuals put in zero effort. The raiders were the first to claim this and then lo and behold a few expansions later the casual opinion caught up and they realized that they want to actually play a fun game. Raiders are getting more content tailored to them because they actually give feedback, something casuals have not done. They just worshipped the developers and it took a shitty MSQ to change their opinion.

Spoken like a true "raider." You all think you really are the saviors of this game. Well, let's see how that continues as they develop content that a majority of the playerbase won't touch. It's amazing how deluded you all are thinking what you want to play is all that matters. And I love how you assume to know me and act like I've just loved everything that this game has spit out. I've been very vocal about my dislike for casual content diversity (or lack thereof). Now enjoy doing your hard content with the 1% or less of the playerbase that's interested. Chaos Alliance will be dead in in weeks once its relegated to discord groups.

[Dante131]

Spoken like a true "raider." You all think you really are the saviors of this game. Well, let's see how that continues as they develop content that a majority of the playerbase won't touch. It's amazing how deluded you all are thinking what you want to play is all that matters. And I love how you assume to know me and act like I've just loved everything that this game has spit out. I've been very vocal about my dislike for casual content diversity (or lack thereof). Now enjoy doing your hard content with the 1% or less of the playerbase that's interested. Chaos Alliance will be dead in in weeks once its relegated to discord groups.

funfact i enjoy raiding but my first comment after the PLL was like. Cool patch for raider bad for casuals not all raider think they are the reason why the game is alive thankfully.

[Havenchild]

You're complaining that raiders somehow made the casual content more boring? The casual content became more boring because casuals put in zero effort. The raiders were the first to claim this and then lo and behold a few expansions later the casual opinion caught up and they realized that they want to actually play a fun game. Raiders are getting more content tailored to them because they actually give feedback, something casuals have not done. They just worshipped the developers and it took a shitty MSQ to change their opinion.

Spoken like a true "raider." You all think you really are the saviors of this game. Well, let's see how that continues as they develop content that a majority of the playerbase won't touch. It's amazing how deluded you all are thinking what you want to play is all that matters. And I love how you assume to know me and act like I've just loved everything that this game has spit out. I've been very vocal about my dislike for casual content diversity (or lack thereof). Now enjoy doing your hard content with the 1% or less of the playerbase that's interested. Chaos Alliance will be dead in in weeks once its relegated to discord groups.

The duality of the XIV forums playerbase.

[PercibelTheren]

You're complaining that raiders somehow made the casual content more boring? The casual content became more boring because casuals put in zero effort. The raiders were the first to claim this and then lo and behold a few expansions later the casual opinion caught up and they realized that they want to actually play a fun game. Raiders are getting more content tailored to them because they actually give feedback, something casuals have not done. They just worshipped the developers and it took a shitty MSQ to change their opinion.

To be fair, when casual players try to give feedback, they invariably get shouted down with nonsense like "you don't do Expert/Savage/Ultimate, therefore you don't understand the game and should have no say in it." Like it or not, casuals are the bulk of EVERY playerbase. Without them, this game wouldn't do well. I think it's quite reasonable to try to keep them happy.

Personally, I'm a midcore player. I like Extremes, Bozja, some of the lower floor Savage fights, Unreal and deep dungeons. I'm getting a lot of stuff to do. Casual players are getting an ally raid they can clear in 30 minutes every week and then...what, exactly?