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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Dawntrail released on 2nd July.
    So 4 month would be around 2nd November. But they said 'mid November'. So it's also again more than 4 month, and then again with no fun stuff to do, for the majority of people, until maybe next year spring. (At the moment it seems like it)

    I really don't understand what is going on here. Can they be so much out of touch? Or do they want to kill the game, and then say: Hey forget about all your progress and come into our new MMO, or whatever. Idk :c
    16 weeks or four months would have been October 2nd. A mid November release puts the 7.1 delay at 19-20 weeks. Five months is insane for a game that already stretched its content extremely thin on a 16 week schedule.
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    Asako Natsume
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    16 weeks or four months would have been October 2nd. A mid November release puts the 7.1 delay at 19-20 weeks. Five months is insane for a game that already stretched its content extremely thin on a 16 week schedule.
    Jul 2 - Oct 2 is 3 months, check your maths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    This is actually something I’m willing to give them a chance on

    If you look at the completion numbers of extremes and first floor savages relative to fourth floor savages and ultimates there does seem to be a large amount of people that fall in the range of wanting something harder than the Diablo armament or queen but easier than a moderate extreme

    Im worried that like criterion they will scale it too highly and it ends up as more savage but I don’t think aiming for that ranged is necessarily flawed
    There's a good amount of people looking for something akin to Bozja content. Not exactly Extreme-content difficulty, but definitely not Savage level due to the sheer number of players and adjustable ease through Lost Actions / lenient enrage or lackthereof.

    With FRU and Chaotic Alliance Raids, they certainly fulfilled high-end hardcore raiders and midcore raiders. Doubly so for midcore raiders with the Unreal and Extreme to fall back on as well. Casual content seems pretty dead for longevity though. It's either Dungeon, PvP, Alliance Raid, or Mahjong.

    I don't think 1 dungeon + 1 alliance raid + PvP series will last past a month or 2, give or take. PvP is probably the last option, and only if the changes to PvP are good enough to spice things up for more than an entire patch to keep it feeling fresh. Maybe I missed something and I glossed over them mentioning relics or cosmic exploration?
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnotherPerson View Post
    There's a good amount of people looking for something akin to Bozja content. Not exactly Extreme-content difficulty, but definitely not Savage level due to the sheer number of players and adjustable ease through Lost Actions / lenient enrage or lackthereof.

    With FRU and Chaotic Alliance Raids, they certainly fulfilled high-end hardcore raiders and midcore raiders. Doubly so for midcore raiders with the Unreal and Extreme to fall back on as well. Casual content seems pretty dead for longevity though. It's either Dungeon, PvP, Alliance Raid, or Mahjong.

    I don't think 1 dungeon + 1 alliance raid + PvP series will last past a month or 2, give or take. PvP is probably the last option, and only if the changes to PvP are good enough to spice things up for more than an entire patch to keep it feeling fresh. Maybe I missed something and I glossed over them mentioning relics or cosmic exploration?
    That’s basically what I’m saying. Im willing to give them a slight benefit of the doubt that this is designed to fall around BA level or so but 100% wouldn’t be surprised if they tuned it too high and it ended up like criterion 2

    If they are going for something like AV level difficulty then that might actually fill the niche people are starving for
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    Oh you misunderstand. I'm not white knighting. Game does plenty wrong. I'm crap stirring. It's so easy to do on this forum. Everyone's so individually entitled here, Boomers stare at the forums in teary eyed awe.
    Sorry then!
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    Totally out of touch. Instead of doing content for the population they wish to have, they should do content for the population they do have. I swear to god, the only reason they still have a playerbase is the lack of other options in the range of story driven mmo (with a decent playerbase).
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    Nhaama Kagon
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    I don't know if I'm disappointed or already expected as much.

    MSQ is just going to be more Wuk Lamat stalking us, so this will be uninteresting.
    I'd probably do the extreme and the normal Alliance raid.
    24man Chaotic will just be more content locked behind discord, so a no from me.
    Ultimates are uninteresting to me except maybe watching the race.
    Hildi...well, that's something to look forward to at least, hoping the writing didn't suffer as much as the MSQ writing did.

    I know it's just part 1 of 2, but...ah...I dunno...
    It looks kinda bleak. Out of touch is probably the best expression to describe it.
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    Carin Eri
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    Quote Originally Posted by lolnotacat View Post
    I would've been happy with just a small acknowledgement things didn't go great with Dawntrail. A simple "Hey we got feedback regarding Dawntrail, and we're reevaluating things. I can't give specifics right now but I'll have more info Q1 2025. Please look forward to it." would've made me happy.

    Genuine question here - have they ever used a live letter to address negative feedback?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carin-Eri View Post
    Genuine question here - have they ever used a live letter to address negative feedback?
    No, but then again they've never had an expansion this poorly received before either.
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