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    Out of touch? PLL

    I saw the actual PLL and I wondered why they only introduced more extreme/savage like content to do. The majority of the playerbase is casual, isn't it?
    How can they forget to deliver casual content to do? Did I miss something? What do you think about this?

    And are you also very unsatisfied that they had no new information regarding to the graphics update?

    If you had to rate the current PPL from 1(worst) to 10(best), what would it be?

    I make this thread that people can talk about the newest stuff.
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    Btw, I don't count Hildibrand, new Alliance raid, Trial and MSQ as content to do. Because everything about this will be done really fast and can't hold for their long patchcycles. :c
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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Btw, I don't count Hildibrand, new Alliance raid, Trial and MSQ as content to do. Because everything about this will be done really fast and can't hold for their long patchcycles. :c
    What do you count as content then lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by EponaTBHSMH View Post
    What do you count as content then lol
    Content would be something one can do repeatedly, to hold the players attention until the next patch. As for what we get:
    MSQ and Hildibrand for example are one and done things, you never repeat those and they amount to maybe 6 hours of cutscene watching. There never is a reason to revisit those.
    Same with the Trial for the MSQ (if we get one) - that too is mostly only revisited in a roulette, and not something that people engage in multiple times.

    The Alliance Raid is something you do once a week, which amounts to maybe 30 Minutes per week.

    The allied society quests are 3 quests a day. Custom deliveries is maybe another 20 Minutes per week.


    The time you spend on this content, imho, is not worth to keep being subbed on until the next patch. And people not unsubbing and playing the game is actually well within the interests of Square Enix as a company.


    The extreme trial goes further into raiding, but if we count this as "content*" then that is a 12-15 minute fight. Repeating a 12-15 minute fight for 16 weeks (until the next patch is released) would feel more tedious than anything else.
    *in the sense of casual content, I am well aware that the extreme trial is content

    Content can be defined broadly, but generally speaking, people want something to play with. Relic grinds could have been given to us earlier, even on a much more basic scale. One can spend hours weekly in Field Operations, a Deep Dungeon with exciting new ideas with different challenges can keep interested players well occupied.

    Also, there is no use trying to divide between casual content and midcore/whatevs content. We all play the same game, and I think everyone wants the game to be the best it could be. Gameplay content with long shelf life is something that benefits everyone in the long run.
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    Last edited by ovIm; 09-30-2024 at 10:09 PM. Reason: clarified something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavenchild View Post
    Btw, I don't count Hildibrand, new Alliance raid, Trial and MSQ as content to do. Because everything about this will be done really fast and can't hold for their long patchcycles. :c
    Well then what are you looking for?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SieyaM View Post
    Well then what are you looking for?
    That's like 4-5 months of subs money from active players for this content that will be done in 6 hours tops. why do you need to defend no content please understand devs?
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    They miss the most important core of combat which is PvE jobs
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    I'm going to hyper focus on the things I don't like, and everything I do like I'm just going to ignore, because

    Internet in general, and any given day on these forums.
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    I would've been happy with just a small acknowledgement things didn't go great with Dawntrail. A simple "Hey we got feedback regarding Dawntrail, and we're reevaluating things. I can't give specifics right now but I'll have more info Q1 2025. Please look forward to it." would've made me happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaideDuku View Post
    I'm going to hyper focus on the things I don't like, and everything I do like I'm just going to ignore, because

    Internet in general, and any given day on these forums.
    That makes no sense. They just announced their standard formula which is stuff that is done fast, even if you do it slow. All the rest was extreme, unreal, ultimate, chaotic alli.
    Please stop whiteknighting. I really don't want this game to die in the long run because of this kind of behaviour.

    Most people I know in game are extremely bored for a long time now and leave more and more. And atm 7.1 has nothing interesting for all those people. Sadly :c
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