Quote Originally Posted by Bobby66 View Post
Okay I will grant you SE made CC the way it is because they saw how unfair pre-mades are. So begs the question why have they not done the same for FL? Couldn't one argue FL's are kind of just meant to be chaotic cluster fuck that is not inherently meant to overly balanced? The community is just as capable at altering meta's, it is not like you have to join DRK bandwagon you can play classes to counter it.

My point is you have CC as a game mode that can only be played in Solo queue, don't try and advocate taking friends playing with friends because of some sweaty try hard pre-made groups. PvPing with friends while shooting the shit is discord is a lot of fun. Now if they did premade verse premade groups by switching it to 8v8v8 fine that would be awesome. As it stands only options they have to get rid of pre-mades from stomping is making pre-made only queues which would probably never pop if you still need 72 people or remove pre-mades.

FFXIV really needs to stop asking for stuff to be removed when has SE ever delivered on removing something and actually fixing it?
No, the community cannot simply alter metas. Metas develop based on the most effective comps within the balancing as defined by the decisions of the Dev team setting the stage when it comes to ability design and potency. I mean sure, theoretically the community could collectively decide not to premade with DRK+ compositions, but how much do you want to bet that there would still be a bunch of sweaty tryhard premades that would ignore that and continue to group queue DRK+ because it's the most effective way to win matches? Again, that's why it's the responsibility of the Dev team to constantly be reviewing the state of PvP and making changes and tweaks to balance to try to make things as reasonably fair as possible.

I'm only asking for them to remove group queue, or at least separate it into it's own queue if SE is unable or unwilling to make a proper effort to better balance PvP for Front lines. The sweaty premades cause enough disruption to the game mode to warrant something being done about it. They already reduced premades from 8 to 4 in FL for that very reason, they were too disruptive.

And honestly I'd be fine with them adding a group queue option for CC, so long as it matches full parties against full parties. I'm actually baffled that ranked CC wasn't specifically set up as a ranked team activity like WoW Arenas. It would make a lot more sense than throwing players into random parties and having their wins/losses so heavily dictated by RNG of what team they end up on.