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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    If you try to prevent this nonsense with enrage timers then you will get another nonsense like tanks, who ALT+F4 after the first wipe. And then, have fun to find new tanks and waiting 30 minutes for them.


    OK, seriously. The tanks do not solo the bosses because it is fun. They do it because they assume, that it will take additional 10+ wipes with this group to kill the boss. It is a simple calculation. What is better? Soloing it or wiping 10+ times more? It is what it is. If the rest of the group is dead then the tanks do not have the trust, that the rest of the group is able to kill the boss. And then they solo it. And if the bosses will get enrage timers to prevent it then the tanks will make a different calculation: What is better? ALT+F4 or wiping 10+ times? I am sure, you can answer it for yourself.



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    Honestly, I’m being completely honest here, do you genuinely believe this, like truly believe that if tanks didn’t have the power to solo bosses they’d all just alt+f4 till the party kicks them

    Because I’m sorry but this is quite literally the most asinine take I have ever seen on this topic given we have 10 years of history of the game where the ranks couldn’t do this and there wasn’t an endemic of baby tanks who’d rather shut off the game than wipe a few times to get a clear

    If this is genuinely what you’d do if they nerfed sustain or made enrages then please kindly never play a tank again
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    As a healer main in this game for nigh on 14 years all I can say is that I’m tired. My role has been eroded of complexity and expression for 3 expansions. I’ve watched the tanks do my role for me for 2 expansions and my feedback and critiques continue to fall on deaf ears.

    I have no idea who modern healers are designed for but I know now it’s not me. This is the first expansion I’m truly considering dropping the healer role and not returning, so if that was the goal- congratulations I guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Honestly, I’m being completely honest here, do you genuinely believe this, like truly believe that if tanks didn’t have the power to solo bosses they’d all just alt+f4 till the party kicks them
    I do not believe it, i know it. Because it already happens sometimes. After the first wipe, someone leaves the group. Because there is no trust, that the group will clear the content quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    Because I’m sorry but this is quite literally the most asinine take I have ever seen on this topic given we have 10 years of history of the game where the ranks couldn’t do this and there wasn’t an endemic of baby tanks who’d rather shut off the game than wipe a few times to get a clear

    If this is genuinely what you’d do if they nerfed sustain or made enrages then please kindly never play a tank again
    Players take always the path of least resistance. If leaving a group makes it easier to reach the goal instead of wiping 10+ times on a boss then many people will do it, sorry. I play also many other MMOs and everywhere it is the same. And i do not think, that FF14 players are so special.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Larirawiel View Post
    I do not believe it, i know it. Because it already happens sometimes. After the first wipe, someone leaves the group. Because there is no trust, that the group will clear the content quickly.
    Genuinely haven't seen this at all since DT launched and I've been doing content ranging from normal dungeons to savage almost every day. I won't say this wasn't correct at a point in time (I remember it happening more often in Endwalker) but I genuinely can't think of a recent time where someone left early (outside of myself since I've been dealing with a death in my family and have had to be on call). Maybe I've gotten lucky with all of my groups but I highly doubt I'm that lucky to just consistently dodge impatient groups and never see it at all anymore. Perhaps the minority now are the ones who feel the way you do, which is fair enough.
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    Last edited by LianaThorne; 08-05-2024 at 07:49 PM.