Tanks holding fights hostage in Roulettes

[TojiSuzuhara]

Its not faster to die and restart. Your party was weak and died, there is no promise of a sudden gain of competence next pull.
By comparison, you know what your capable of as a tank, thus its lower risk to just solo it and get the guaranteed move on rather than be a tutorial bot for your party

Thats how I feel about it anyway.

problem in this particular instance is they pulled before we could talk about WHY we died. i'm patient, and i want people to learn. and i also want people to have that authentic "first fight" experience and the tanks wasting 30 minutes of our time denied these players the chance to do that and i truly think we wouldve killed it again in another pull or two if they were at least given the chance.

[Magikazam]

Its not faster to die and restart.

Yes it is, ngl I play since ARR and during all my playtime I had 3 times only where it was worth for the tank to not reset. It a normal difficulty fight and people wont wipe for the next hours like if they were progging savage.

Only reason this problem exist is cause Tank are completly overtuned for the content, it not like you are good or that it require skill to survive when the game don't punish you for running around with 7 stacks.

[Oizen]

problem in this particular instance is they pulled before we could talk about WHY we died. i'm patient, and i want people to learn. and i also want people to have that authentic "first fight" experience and the tanks wasting 30 minutes of our time denied these players the chance to do that and i truly think we wouldve killed it again in another pull or two if they were at least given the chance.

Weren't you on the ground, talk about it then.

Yes it is, ngl I play since ARR and during all my playtime I had 3 times only where it was worth for the tank to not reset. It a normal difficulty fight and people wont wipe for the next hours like if they were progging savage.
Only reason this problem exist is cause Tank are completly overtuned for the content, it not like you are good or that it require skill to survive when the game don't punish you for running around with 7 stacks.

Healers are also overkitted for normals. I agree its a balance problem but they seem to like this direction for the game.

[TojiSuzuhara]

Weren't you on the ground, talk about it then.


Healers are also overkitted for normals. I agree its a balance problem but they seem to like this direction for the game.

we did! we also asked them to reset. hope this helps

[alfarini]

i asked them to reset several times and i believe someone else did. neither tank ever said a word. a few dps mentioned things along the lines of "how long will this take?" etc . this was right after adds phase where i believe the boss had around 50-60% left and the clock was at 37 min left when they finally killed it so we spent about 30 minutes in there total after 2 pulls

Damn 50 percent? That's a bit much but honestly thoes tanks are very few and far between tho. If it was someone reasonable they hop off and pull again. Just chalk it up to big dick tank energy, and move on most wouldn't during a fight with more than 20 percent I'm sure.

[TojiSuzuhara]

Damn 50 percent? That's a bit much but honestly thoes tanks are very few and far between tho. If it was someone reasonable they hop off and pull again. Just chalk it up to big dick tank energy, and move on most wouldn't during a fight with more than 20 percent I'm sure.

its really not that rare. yesterday during the ddos attack i was in the middle of stray dungeon and our healer never came back and we took on 2nd boss and rest of dungeon without a healer (we tried to find one just never came back in). in that instance though the 3 of us just agreed to keep going until a healer arrived. this trial however me and at least a few others spoke up not wanting to sit there for what was essentially a penalty lockout timer

[Karious]

I'm not required to die because the rest of you can't do mechanics correctly. I'll keep tanking if I'm the only one left.

[Reimmi]

I'm not required to die because the rest of you can't do mechanics correctly. I'll keep tanking if I'm the only one left.

As a tank main there is nothing more boring than soloing 50% of a bosses hp.
I honestly do not understand how you find that engaging at all.
Go solo old savage fights or do, you know, actual savage if you want to feel like a tank

[Toutatis]

I'm not required to die because the rest of you can't do mechanics correctly. I'll keep tanking if I'm the only one left.

Let’s turn this around: the only reason you are still alive is because you are on a tank, not because you are better than everyone else and it doesn’t mean that the rest can’t do mechanics. It’s very easy to survive on a tank there but if the healers go down and there is no one with a rez, the dps will take unavoidable damage and die on that boss. Also very few tanks use their tools to help the dps survive in normal mode though that alone is insufficient on that boss. I’ve finished several duties alone on a tank (though I stuck it if I see that it will take more than a few minutes) and it’s nothing to be proud of or brag about as I am practically immortal.

SE should just put an auto enrage after a few minutes if a party entered a duty synched and there is only one person left alive or, even better, nerf tanks. The survivability of tanks is over the top now and it shouldn’t be possible to clear new content with just the tanks while the rest of the party is dead.

[FudoMyoo]

Everyone just play tank.

Problem solved