#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Tint]

It’s absolutely the last to fill up on Crystal. I’ve also noticed a severe lack of ASTs.

I worry that the devs will get the wrong message of “Oh no! We made DT healing too hard!” when it’s actually, “It’s still too boring.”

Actually it's both. Kind of.

There are way too many mechanics and mechanic combos which will one shot you. And then? Nobody will raise you. So you let the team down and then have to watch how useless you actually are to the team when they kill the boss anyway.

You feel like you have responsibility and are a burden at the same time. Playing healer is probably not difficult - but it can be frustrating. Couple that with boring gameplay and you have a recipe to have a role which is too taxing to play for casuals and too easy for hardcore players.

There is no room inbetween.

Of course nobody wants to play the role.

[ToodlesElNoodles]

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Very well said!

[Kozmakis]

Actually it's both. Kind of.

There are way too many mechanics and mechanic combos which will one shot you. And then? Nobody will raise you. So you let the team down and then have to watch how useless you actually are to the team when they kill the boss anyway.

You feel like you have responsibility and are a burden at the same time. Playing healer is probably not difficult - but it can be frustrating. Couple that with boring gameplay and you have a recipe to have a role which is too taxing to play for casuals and too easy for hardcore players.

There is no room inbetween.

Well put, hats off to you!

Of course nobody wants to play the role.

This statement, I unfortunately would have to disagree with... Not because it's incorrect, but because it's only been 11 days since the release of Dawntrail - and, after all, each expansion so far lasted for about 2 years... It's just too early to say how many of the healers will stick to the role. I am seeing a good amount of Sprout icons next to healers in Dungeons and Alliance Raids; time will tell what they will decide to do in the future, maybe they will enjoy it.

[ty_taurus]

Why make such polarizing design choices that trade your old audience for a new one when you can find a middle ground that lets you keep your old audience while attracting new members?

[Ramiee]

Phys ranged also feels the worse to play out of the dps, imho. BRD is the most engaging but has some very obtuse design choices (no charge on Apex for whatever reason, punishing on death...) and the other two are underpowered and, especially for DNC, kinda dull.
But I don't want to derail the healer thread with dps woes, especially since any of those three is leagues ahead of any healer in terms of engagement.

level 96 dancer trait/ability is the single most "you missed why people enjoy this job" moment ever. Literally just removing the dance inputs for no reason, its not even stronger than standard finish lmao.

[GrimGale]

You can also look at PF and see that most groups are waiting for healers. At least, that’s the case on Aether.

Same on Chaos. Yesterday night was especially barren in the green slots-

[Shurrikhan]

I don't see why combo consolidation has to be all or nothing. I've always pushed for the option to combine your combo into one button while the job is designed with the idea that the combo is one button in mind.

That way, if people find the kit too bloated, they can consolidate the combo. But if someone wants the versatility of being able to reset their combo, they can too.

That said, a 1-2-3 combo addition to healers would be the laziest thing they could do. That would 100% be bloat for the sake of bloat.

Basically this. I would love to see an improved, far more user-friendly, intuitive, and helps-along rehaul of macros, be it by a new name or no, that would allow us to combine keys about any which way we feel like, and from there see how many buttons people actually like to run under their present reason for separation.

From there, if we do not revise combos in any way to make them desire more buttons than there are actual choices in a given GCD, we might make some adjustments such as preventing players from hitting combo actions they haven't yet prepped (or providing that option) for parity's sake. However, I hope laying the reality bare in that way would entice either more geometric series of choices (e.g., as not to waste consolidated keyspace, 3 choices in every DRG GCD instead of a real choice only once per 10 ST GCDs or after every 3 AoE GCDs) or to find more reason for the separate buttons (e.g., the ability to rush combos at consequently greater cost to resource and loss to duration and/or potency, more situational value, or even replacement with "natural" combos instead of predefined strict ones.

[ForteNightshade]

I don't see why combo consolidation has to be all or nothing. I've always pushed for the option to combine your combo into one button while the job is designed with the idea that the combo is one button in mind.

That way, if people find the kit too bloated, they can consolidate the combo. But if someone wants the versatility of being able to reset their combo, they can too.

That said, a 1-2-3 combo addition to healers would be the laziest thing they could do. That would 100% be bloat for the sake of bloat.

My argument against it has always boiled down to it not remaining optional because if they keep adding buttons without pruning others, you'll inevitably run out of comfortable space and be forced to consolidate. For example, if they added 3-4 new buttons on Ninja, I have nowhere to put them if I don't consolidate both my single target and aoe combos.

Now I could come around to the consolidation if I had any faith they'd add interesting abilities but if the trade off is "press this button every two minutes" or "keep Spinning Edge and Gust Slash separate," I'd prefer the latter.

[Shurrikhan]

My argument against it has always boiled down to it not remaining optional because if they keep adding buttons without pruning others, you'll inevitably run out of comfortable space and be forced to consolidate. For example, if they added 3-4 new buttons on Ninja, I have nowhere to put them if I don't consolidate both my single target and aoe combos.

Now I could come around to the consolidation if I had any faith they'd add interesting abilities but if the trade off is "press this button every two minutes" or "keep Spinning Edge and Gust Slash separate," I'd prefer the latter.

This might be one of those cases where I'd actually take their word for it if they said something along the likes of "We will continue to limit the acquisition of new skills as if the previous degree of consolidation persisted from these last few, small but near-unanimously requested consolidations." It excuses doing less work, after all.

[GartredZW]

>be me
>Expert dungeon as DPS
>first boss
>healer dies to the first mechanic
>Me and Viper die shortly after to raidwides
>warrior doesn't die.
>stays alive for 8 minutes trying to solo boss from 90%
>can't even check on his progress because we're outside the arena
>I tell him it'd just be faster to wipe and try again with an actual party
>ignored
>he dies anyway
>try again
>Healer dies again to second mechanic
>"sorry guys, I'm just out of it today. I'm going to bed"
>healer leaves
>I drop a stack marker on the tank in hopes that it combines with his tankbuster and kills him
>"why"
>"So you don't waste 8 minutes just to die again"
>wait 10 more minutes
>he actually clears.
>gets all smug, "What was that about dying"
>I'm already readying the vote kick
>Viper clicks yes, thinking it was for the offline healer
>Tank gets booted
>Viper realizes mistake and leaves too
>refill party
>chad DRK who can survive the minimal healing our new Sage is outputting
>at least Sage can stay alive
>They ask if I got a Strike healer before.
>"Nah, I'm the strike healer."
>I tell the story in between pulls
>Finish the dungeon in record time
>triple-comm'd
>feels good.

I'd say the strike is going just fine. It's attracted a bunch of glue-sniffers who just play healer to see fast queues. This'll do wonders to convince the average person that healing is just completely broken, and they need to bring back old healing mains who know what they're doing.