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  1. #6401
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Cerberus
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Playing healers in other MMOs then touching it again in XIV is always insane. Its so weird to have such a large healing kit yet a single oGCD can normally heal someone close to full hp.
    I seriously don't understand the current healing potencies for the amount of healing tools there are.
    (17)

  2. #6402
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    Hellebore_Ghrian's Avatar
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    Hellebore Ghrian
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    Louisoix
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PercibelTheren View Post
    It seems a lot of people only have information about the whole affair from streamers and we all know how they covered it.
    I'll never understand why so many people take CC's words as universal truths, especially when you know that CC's goal is to say whatever gets them more viewers and subs while they don't even mean what they say most of the time.
    (9)
    Healer? What do you even need one for?

  3. #6403
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    Rein_eon_Osborne's Avatar
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    [...]There is no “single thing to focus on” that would actually fix healers because they are broken in so many different ways
    I'm gonna be real here. If anybody ever think that there exists a single 'magic fix' that will right the role, they're either delusional or blinkard.
    (13)

  4. #6404
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    Teno's Avatar
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    Teno Gestalt
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    Is your argument really just "they should fundamentally change the game for everyone else so it suits me and I can play DPS on what is supposed to be a defense-oriented role"? You're not being "excluded". You have personal preferences that are different than what the developers envision. There are two other roles and a slew of other games that feature dynamic, offensive gameplay. This is one game that has one role for people who want to focus on support and defense/healing first (on a healer no less). Are you fine with "excluding" those people instead? Heck, you're playing a game developed in Japan, where the gaming culture itself leans heavily toward healers being healers first, and doing offense as an after-thought. So let's change an entire culture just to fit what you want.

    And second, if you feel you can't enjoy the game because of how healers have been designed for several years now, then why are you even subscribed right now? Your argument would make more sense if they had just radically altered how healers work for DT. They haven't. Heck, earlier in your post you even mention that this is the 3rd expansion in a row with a different philosophy toward healers than what you want. If this is somehow stopping you from playing, then why are you even subbed at the moment to begin with? (Meant as a legitimate question, not implying you should unsub.)
    Ah yes, personal preference that is echoed by the whole healer community aside from the japanese minority which matters. Healers in FFXIV HAVE ALWAYS BEEN GREEN DPS, IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT, END OF THE LINE. And it was progressively gutted, that's the issue. Just unsub is a terribly immature thing to say.
    The holy trinity is a thing of the past, espcially on healers who would spend their time looking at their hp bars in many games. Even Yoship said that healers shouldn't do that ffs. Also, it's mostly in this game's japanese community that players are terribly bad, chief among them healers. They're not representative of healers in the slightest yet it's them who are heard.

    Also solutions are unified, wtf are you on about ? The healer community which wants changes knows what kind of changes they want, don't be weird. And they take into account 111111 spammers. Ie, see what has been suggested for sage countless times, which would fit ALL playstyles, including netflix gaming.

    If you want to join in on a discussion, know your subject. Especially since you seem very new.
    (5)

  5. #6405
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    Bonoki's Avatar
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    Phoebe Iris
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by LyraShu View Post
    Friends in VC;

    "Healer's strike is dumb, why did they choose THIS expansion to strike?"
    "What are they even going on about? Seriously they are nothing but a bunch of casuals complaining"
    "Well, a few of them do harder content, but I swear this is people just complaining and not knowing why"

    Me;

    "So, I know that some people are joining because the 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1 spam is boring and puts people to sleep. They are just wanting it to be interesting"

    Them:

    "Y'know what? That's kinda fair. I don't play healer's because of the spam"


    It was just funny. Current content does look to be really fun and I actually been looking at it with starry eyes kinda wanting to heal for it. . .but then I just remember the spam and most of my drive goes away.
    Virtually everyone I talk to outside of these forums, the conversation goes exactly just like this.
    (16)
    99.99% chance probably a Titanman alt

  6. #6406
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    PaulH's Avatar
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    Dru Hutton
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    Odin
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    Scholar Lv 100
    I crossed the line and became a WAR, so much fun and feels insane.
    (0)

  7. #6407
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    Grann-Goro's Avatar
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    Grann Goro
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    Ragnarok
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    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by PaulH View Post
    I crossed the line and became a WAR, so much fun and feels insane.
    At one point, it gets boring to play with "invulnerabilty cheat mode : on".
    But yeah, it's definitly fun at first !

    Have fun mate
    (2)
    Retired healer

  8. #6408
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LyraShu View Post
    Friends in VC;

    "Healer's strike is dumb, why did they choose THIS expansion to strike?"
    "What are they even going on about? Seriously they are nothing but a bunch of casuals complaining"
    "Well, a few of them do harder content, but I swear this is people just complaining and not knowing why"

    Me;

    "So, I know that some people are joining because the 1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1 spam is boring and puts people to sleep. They are just wanting it to be interesting"

    Them:

    "Y'know what? That's kinda fair. I don't play healer's because of the spam"


    It was just funny. Current content does look to be really fun and I actually been looking at it with starry eyes kinda wanting to heal for it. . .but then I just remember the spam and most of my drive goes away.
    Hahah that was exactly the kind of conversation I saw in /shout when questing through the 4th zone.

    And I don't even feel starry eyed anymore because I've been disappointed every time. It's the same every expansion. Casuals who come back after a two year break are a little overwhelmed and tell everyone how busy and fun healing is, until the first crafted gear is released and everyone is overgeared for normal level capped content for the next two years. I'm not going to play a role that is moderately fun for a few weeks every two years, when there are roles that are fun all of the time. Questing, dungeons, raids, trials, synced or capped, geared or undergeared, in good and bad parties; other roles are more fun than healers regardless of the time and place because their rotations are designed to be that way.
    (9)
    Last edited by Reinha; 07-07-2024 at 12:01 AM.

  9. #6409
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    Kewitt's Avatar
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    Balmung
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    Fisher Lv 100
    I guess it over.
    I queued as a healer for a duty roulette today and I was the role in queue 26
    (0)
    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  10. #6410
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    Souljacker's Avatar
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    I quiet quit healing years ago. I still keep WHM (at least) at max level to play with friends should they require something, but I never use roulettes to get there and I don't play in group content with it anymore. It's always one of two situations - some terribly undergeared and overconfident moron pulling wall to wall and expecting me to compensate for his inability to manage cooldowns, or a warrior and I twiddle my thumbs while pressing the 'spin' button.

    Not at all engaging. Don't blame folks for being sick of this shit.
    (13)

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