"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[Deejudanne]

ypyt mentality is very weird to me considering ff14 is one of the most forgiving games to tank in when it comes to aggro/enmity, imagine refusing to do your job because someone ran ahead of you... this community needs a big reality check Istg

[Arrius]

ypyt mentality is very weird to me considering ff14 is one of the most forgiving games to tank in when it comes to aggro/enmity, imagine refusing to do your job because someone ran ahead of you... this community needs a big reality check Istg

I know a few tanks who come from the older generations of MMO's where 'tanking' came with a slew of responsiblities and requirements in order to be picked as Main Tanks in raids or groups. More often than not, many guilds had such tanks as raid leaders in order to better coordinate with the rest, so a lot of this rubbed off and sticks to you.

There is also this generation of the 'Go go go' attitude + 'Dungeon Finder Anonymity' that is just annoying and punishing for newer players. Seeing it also frequently in some trying to get their feet wet in M+ at WoW, only to get massacred by overzealous DPS and dunking hard on them if they pull too much and the tank cannot handle it due to inexperience, bricking everyone's key on purpose by leaving or kicking said tank because they did not get what they wanted instead of communicating and coordinating with the group if they got a new one with them.

[AnotherHighlander]

There is also this generation of the 'Go go go' attitude + 'Dungeon Finder Anonymity' that is just annoying and punishing for newer players. Seeing it also frequently in some trying to get their feet wet in M+ at WoW, only to get massacred by overzealous DPS and dunking hard on them if they pull too much and the tank cannot handle it due to inexperience, bricking everyone's key on purpose by leaving or kicking said tank because they did not get what they wanted instead of communicating and coordinating with the group if they got a new one with them.

This is Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, where it takes less than two braincells to tank in dungeons. This isn't M+.

[Arrius]

This is Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn, where it takes less than two braincells to tank in dungeons. This isn't M+.

It was harder back at ARR and HW, and only got dumbed down further.
When TP was a thing and Gladiators/Paladins had to use Flash to pick up trash mobs, which used MP, but due to it being a non-damage move it generated less than what Overpower did on the Warrior - Which was a frontal cone.

Yes, people actually were patient so the tanks could generate enough emnity. Nowadays it's just throwing full burst on the first second they do their spinny attacks, hence SE has to patch them in oder to provide a bigger emnity gain.

It is, combined with the increased self-sustain, that this dumbing down is a damn shame.

[BunnyQueen]

It was harder back at ARR and HW, and only got dumbed down further.
When TP was a thing and Gladiators/Paladins had to use Flash to pick up trash mobs, which used MP, but due to it being a non-damage move it generated less than what Overpower did on the Warrior - Which was a frontal cone.

Yes, people actually were patient so the tanks could generate enough emnity. Nowadays it's just throwing full burst on the first second they do their spinny attacks, hence SE has to patch them in oder to provide a bigger emnity gain.

It is, combined with the increased self-sustain, that this dumbing down is a damn shame.

That sounds a lot better then this braindead content that a chimpanzee slapping on a keyboard could do. They should revert everything.