"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

[AnotherHighlander]

It is expected that in some dungeons you will accidentally pull an extra mob or pack of mobs by mistake, if this is a genuine error, there is no harm in admitting your mistake in chat and apologizing. However where this becomes a problem is the chronic Ninjapuller, who insists on running ahead of the group and pulling the mobs. I have experienced this in my recent dungeon runs where DPS and some healers have been running ahead of the tank pulling mobs repeatedly, and when asked to please keep with the group their usual response has been "Too slow".

Leveling dungeons are called leveling dungeons for a reason, if you see an inexperienced healer/tank, please be kind and avoid ninja pulling. Its a really bad habit.

Too slow!!!

Half the time the tank isn't even sprinting and the other half of the time they're contemplating on the enemy they just defeated for a minute for whatever reason.

[Edmund_Blackadder]

[QUOTE=AnotherHighlander;6529544]Too slow!!!

That is why I specifically used the "levelling" dungeon in my example. The operative word there being "levelling" .

[Ozmandis]

If a player consistently is ahead of me because they can't be bothered to wait 0.5s or worse it's a healer rescuing me, you can bet I'm turning off tank stance and you're gonna do my job. You are not entitled to have a speedrun when tagging with randos, if they want to take it little bit slow you have to respect it as long as it is not unreasonable. Wanna have high speed clears ? Tag along with friends and go war + 3 dps so you're not a public nuisance.

[Nestama]

You are not entitled to have a speedrun when tagging with randos, if they want to take it little bit slow you have to respect it as long as it is not unreasonable. Wanna have high speed clears ? Tag along with friends and go war + 3 dps so you're not a public nuisance.

You are not entitled to have a slow run when tagging with randos, if they want to go fast you have to respect is as long as it is not unreasonable. Wanna take it slow ? Tag along with friends so you're not a public nuisance.

It goes both ways, mate and why this argument never works.

[genuine_stranger]

The only excuse for not pulling w2w is when the healer is struggling to sustain the tank.
It may be that the tank isn't using his CDs, the healer isn't used to this kind of pace, or the dps is bad and both run out of abilities.
If those things apply, than yes do that ypyt bs. Everything else is just an ego trip.

If even the healer pulls trash ahead of you, than maybe, MAYBE; and hear me out, I know this might sound crazy; increase your pace?

[AnotherHighlander]

You are not entitled to have a speedrun when tagging with randos

Average FF14 player

Weaponized mediocrity!!

[Gilihere]

dude if the healer goes ahead and pulls mobs way out in the front I am expecting a rescue, because sprint takes a lot of time or recharge and the gap closer has limited range.
other than that it should be ok to pull its my job as tank to pick up the aggro afterwards

[Ozmandis]

You are not entitled to have a slow run when tagging with randos, if they want to go fast you have to respect is as long as it is not unreasonable. Wanna take it slow ? Tag along with friends so you're not a public nuisance.

It goes both ways, mate and why this argument never works.

You completly missed my point : what I'm saying is you should be entitled to a reasonable speed of clearing, that is fair. What you are not entitled to is pushing people to play like speedrunners because that's absolutely what some are doing OR being so slow that you are wasting minutes of everyone time. Please behave in some good faith and don't tell me that a healer rescuing a tank to make them move faster is something that is tolerable. If you don't agree with that, please tag with me and I'll rescue you so much that you're gonna get crazy.

If this what you want, and I want that too btw, you should use the social aspect of the game to recruit people that are like minded instead of imposing it on people that don't want it.

Average FF14 player

Weaponized mediocrity!!

Quite the contrary in fact, I'm always tagging with my friends so we can clear ASAP and have a lot of fun doing speedruns.

Don't worry guys, I am getting mad too when I have a lvl80+ tank that is still single pulling and I'll probably be the one pulling the second pack on them if the healer feels good about it. That is understandable.

[Connor]

Too slow!!!

Half the time the tank isn't even sprinting and the other half of the time they're contemplating on the enemy they just defeated for a minute for whatever reason.

Play Scholar. Now you decide when they sprint.

Ultimate roulette comp confirmed - 4X SCH, infinity sprint

[Lazariah]

YPYT is toxic. So is a DPS running ahead to pull mobs without asking the tank if it's okay first.

Communication and teamwork people.