Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[CerusSerenade]

1. We are the playable character in an RPG. We shouldn't have dialogue how we only exist as "moral support". This is a video game at the end of the day.

2. I disagree she has QUITE the range, having been to her resume page. That said, she utterly failed in this role. Whether you like her as small bit npcs that she typically plays is irrelevant to how she performed here.

3. You can have character development without writing your character to be irritating to the reader/player.

4. I agree she should have some role, but once we veered into "world-threatening" and other shards, the actual ruler should have stayed put. What a terrible ruler to plunge into a portal at just the moment your country, which needs stability, is at it's greatest period of instability. She should have stayed home and her presence following us around after her coronation is illogical to me. To me this was the biggest example of how she did not grow at all. She went from impulsive simpleton to ... impulsive simpleton. (I mean, in the level 100 quests she couldn't even count.)

But I guess we need her along to tell us over and over again that talking to 3 people in the course of 15 minutes means we will understand and remember an entire culture.

1. That's not what I said and that's not what happened. You're being dishonest, or showing that you actually didn't pay attention to the story. There are plenty of times when we prove our strength, again, such as against Gulool Ja Ja, against Zoraal Ja, and the final boss, and that's not even listing all of it.

2. Then you're a poor judge of a person's voice acting skill, your bitter opinion is discounted. If she "failed" it's because of the voice direction she was given. This obsession you have against Wuk Lamat and their is becoming apparent. Transphobia is a gross character flaw.

3. True. You can also have character while writing your character be irritating to the reader. Again, I bring up Luke from Tales of the Abyss. Neither are mutually exclusive to good writing and character development. Again showing your complete lack of authority to be judging these qualities.

4. Wuk Lamat's whole theme is that she is compassionate and rule with empathy. Her empathy for Sphene, her foil allows the main cast to succeed where normally it shouldn't have. Once again, you have ignored that Koana, the logistically excelling co-ruler is heading the defense and management of the city while she's striking out. Your inability to understand why or how only shows that either you weren't paying attention, or you don't understand that morale driving figures don't always command from the back.

It really just seems that you didn't pay attention to the story at all that I have to tell you all this. Maybe just be honest going forward.

[ZephyrMenodora]

1. That's not what I said and that's not what happened. You're being dishonest, or showing that you actually didn't pay attention to the story. There are plenty of times when we prove our strength, again, such as against Gulool Ja Ja, against Zoraal Ja, and the final boss, and that's not even listing all of it.

2. Then you're a poor judge of a person's voice acting skill, your bitter opinion is discounted. If she "failed" it's because of the voice direction she was given. This obsession you have against Wuk Lamat and their is becoming apparent. Transphobia is a gross character flaw.

3. True. You can also have character while writing your character be irritating to the reader. Again, I bring up Luke from Tales of the Abyss. Neither are mutually exclusive to good writing and character development. Again showing your complete lack of authority to be judging these qualities.

4. Wuk Lamat's whole theme is that she is compassionate and rule with empathy. Her empathy for Sphene, her foil allows the main cast to succeed where normally it shouldn't have. Once again, you have ignored that Koana, the logistically excelling co-ruler is heading the defense and management of the city while she's striking out. Your inability to understand why or how only shows that either you weren't paying attention, or you don't understand that morale driving figures don't always command from the back.

It really just seems that you didn't pay attention to the story at all that I have to tell you all this. Maybe just be honest going forward.

LOL okay champ. *pats on head*

I'm sorry you just have a hard time accepting many people dislike this character and story.

And about Twitter - take a longer look, past all the people screaming "PHOBE!!!" as a distraction to the poor quality we received here as consumers.

[NiceNox]

2. Then you're a poor judge of a person's voice acting skill, your bitter opinion is discounted. If she "failed" it's because of the voice direction she was given. This obsession you have against Wuk Lamat and their is becoming apparent. Transphobia is a gross character flaw.

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

[jumps004]

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

I have seen people call people misogynist in a post that was asking for more Krile in the expansion for also expressing their dislike for Wuk Lamat... a character that is also a WOMAN. Mudslinging really doesn't get anyone anywhere.

[Nothv13]

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

I didn't even know the VA was a trans person until I got called a transphobe for not liking the character.

[CerusSerenade]

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

I will not, especially when I have personally seen a GREAT amount of transphobia surrounding the character and her English VA. Especially now that certain figures have attached themselves to the whole thing, there is a substantial amount of people who dislike the character for no reason other than their favorite internet personality said to for transphobic or other asinine reasons.

[Malthir]

I will not, especially when I have personally seen a GREAT amount of transphobia surrounding the character and her English VA. Especially now that certain figures have attached themselves to the whole thing, there is a substantial amount of people who dislike the character for no reason other than their favorite internet personality said to for transphobic or other asinine reasons.

Right, but the JP forum is also critical of her and it's a different VA so I kinda feel you're full of it. So while there maybe a tiny amount of morons spouting stuff, the VAST majority of the criticism has been aimed at the character not the VA, and the vast majority of the criticism of the VA has been about her not being good. The first to talk about her being trans was a game journo, almost as if they were trying to setup a scapegoat, trying to rile up the usual tiny contingent of clowns just so they can then try and brush away all the criticism about the poor quality of the VA and terrible terrible writing. I was here day 1 complaining about how terrible the story is, the initial posts talking about the bad VA went on for 2 days before anyone knew or mentioned the VA was trans. So again, you're full of it.

[KurenXIV]

Right, but the JP forum is also critical of her and it's a different VA so I kinda feel you're full of it. So while there maybe a tiny amount of morons spouting stuff, the VAST majority of the criticism has been aimed at the character not the VA, and the vast majority of the criticism of the VA has been about her not being good. The first to talk about her being trans was a game journo, almost as if they were trying to setup a scapegoat, trying to rile up the usual tiny contingent of clowns just so they can then try and brush away all the criticism about the poor quality of the VA and terrible terrible writing. I was here day 1 complaining about how terrible the story is, the initial posts talking about the bad VA went on for 2 days before anyone knew or mentioned the VA was trans. So again, you're full of it.

Seconded.

I also play with Japanese voices exclusively (have since STB) and I hate Wuk Lamat. The VA performance is perfectly fine on the JP end; it's the horrid writing and her being shoehorned into everything with zero growth that makes me dislike her so much.

[NiceNox]

Seconded.

I also play with Japanese voices exclusively (have since STB) and I hate Wuk Lamat. The VA performance is perfectly fine on the JP end; it's the horrid writing and her being shoehorned into everything with zero growth that makes me dislike her so much.

Same here, I also played through the MSQ with Japanese voices and I still found Wuk to be quite.....linear and not to my liking. To be honest, I've never felt this frustrated with any character this much. In my opinion, Wuk is borderline Mary Sue and that's a sign of something I don't really enjoy.

[Dogempire]

Same here, I also played through the MSQ with Japanese voices and I still found Wuk to be quite.....linear and not to my liking. To be honest, I've never felt this frustrated with any character this much. In my opinion, Wuk is borderline Mary Sue and that's a sign of something I don't really enjoy.

I'd argue that Wuk Lamat is a Mary Sue because while she has negative traits, she doesn't suffer consequences as a result of them nor do they actually impact the story in any meaningful way. If you write a super OP character but then give them clumsiness as their only negative character trait, then they're still a Mary Sue if the clumsiness is only used for comedic gags and never in the heat of an important battle or during a crucial moment.

The only things I can think of off the top of my head as her negative character traits is her feeling of inadequacy at the beginning, her dislike of boats/lava, as well as her naivety.

Her feelings of inadequacy are never explored much and they end up disappearing completely after she beats Bakool Ja Ja, but anyone who actually knows about these kinds of feelings knows that they don't magically go away, that just because you complete a task that you didn't think you could do, that you suddenly feel as if you're actually okay the way you are, at least these feelings don't last long-term. We never see her doubt herself after becoming Dawnservant. She does pick Koana as co-ruler but really it just comes off as "Haha, I'm big dumb cat need smart person to do thinking" which just isn't compelling when it could have come from a place of deep-seated percieved inadequacy and maybe a nagging negative feeling of "I'm not good enough for this job, even if I passed all the trials."

Her dislike of boats/vehicles and lava is literally just a comedic relief device, negative traits that are only used for comedic relief don't really count as negative traits when it comes to making a character not a Mary-Sue. I guess there's also dislike of Alpacas, but again, comedic relief, same thing.

Lastly, Wuk Lamat's naivety isn't explored at all, she doesn't suffer as a result of her overly-trusting nature, or really put her trust in someone that ends up biting her, other than maybe Sphene, but the betrayal literally just boils down to:

Sphene: "I'm gonna do the bad thing"
Wuk Lamat: "No! Don't do the bad thing!"

Again, very shallow writing, Wuk should be constantly in over her head, especially in the final zones, and constantly being out of her league should make her "imposter syndrome" manifest and make her act out in ways to overcompensate for her feeling useless. They should have done more to highlight her immaturity. Show, don't tell when it comes to writing.

Wuk Lamat also just casually never struggles in terms of combat again after beating Bakool Ja Ja, she can just tear through the fabric of reality to smack a robot and then deal 13 million damage to it in 1 hit even though days ago she couldn't even make Bakool Ja Ja flinch when she swung her axe as hard as she could. She's not the warrior of light, she shouldn't be able to overcome her limits by THAT MUCH in a few days with some feels.

Our potential is supposed to be boundless, Wuk Lamat is just a regular fem Hroth

Anyways, like I said, Wuk Lamat is a Mary Sue, she doesn't have enough negative traits to offset her positive ones, and her sudden power boost is very much unearned