Wow, Wuk Lamat is really single-handedly ruining the DT story...

[ThorneDynasty]

I think the most telling thing is that so few defenders of the expansion actually defend the game or even engage the criticism, it's just immediate personal insults about "whiners" half the time.

[CerusSerenade]

Most of people's complaints come down to:

1. "She stole he spotlight!" Well why the hell would we be more important to the people of the land than the literal royalty of the nation? What's more, the people who matter realize we're insanely strong at every turn. Zoraal Ja's advisor Sareel Ja notes that we're a genuine threat, Bakool Ja Ja concocts a whole hostage scheme to fight Wuk Lamat without us smashing their face in, Gulool Ja Ja recognizes that we're the only person to have matched them, and we later defeat his shade when he was at his prime. We were a mentor, the veteran, the explorer who was hired on in exchange for our free invitation to a foreign land. Wuk Lamat is the character experiencing development, but we're the reason any of it happens.

2. "Her voice acting is so bad!" If you've actually bothered to look up Sena Bryer's other works you'd see she actually has QUITE the range. Her voice was specifically requested and paid for by the dev team of FF14. I personally find it quite fitting. If you have a problem with it, you should probably list your credentials and provide an argument as to why, otherwise you just sound petty.

3. "She's so annoying!" Yes, she's a character undergoing significant development from a sheltered naive royal to a genuine warrior and ruler. That's what character development tends to look like. A good example to compare to this would be Luke Fon Fabre from Tales of the Abyss.

4. "Wuk Lamat shouldn't have been in the second half of the story!" You mean the fighter of the two rulers, the one who has a foil in Sphene shouldn't be confronting said foil, even though they have a tactical ruler already handling the defense of their capital? This is just daft.

I think the most telling thing is that so few defenders of the expansion actually defend the game or even engage the criticism, it's just immediate personal insults about "whiners" half the time.

Or, and hear me out, people who are enjoying the game don't spend much if any time on the forum because they're too busy playing the game.

A quick look on Twitter shows next to no complaints about Wuk Lamat, you're just a vocal minority with no real backing to your dislike for the character, their voice, or the writing.

[ZephyrMenodora]

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1. We are the playable character in an RPG. We shouldn't have dialogue how we only exist as "moral support". This is a video game at the end of the day.

2. I disagree she has QUITE the range, having been to her resume page. That said, she utterly failed in this role. Whether you like her as small bit npcs that she typically plays is irrelevant to how she performed here.

3. You can have character development without writing your character to be irritating to the reader/player. This also only works if you succeed in redeeming the character, which to many here, they completely failed. If anything her presence in the final trial made things worse.

4. I agree she should have some role, but once we veered into "world-threatening" and other shards, the actual ruler should have stayed put. What a terrible ruler to plunge into a portal at just the moment your country, which needs stability, is at it's greatest period of instability. She should have stayed home and her presence following us around after her coronation is illogical to me. To me this was the biggest example of how she did not grow at all. She went from impulsive simpleton to ... impulsive simpleton. (I mean, in the level 100 quests she couldn't even count.)

But I guess we need her along to tell us over and over again that talking to 3 people in the course of 15 minutes means we will understand and remember an entire culture.

[CerusSerenade]

1. We are the playable character in an RPG. We shouldn't have dialogue how we only exist as "moral support". This is a video game at the end of the day.

2. I disagree she has QUITE the range, having been to her resume page. That said, she utterly failed in this role. Whether you like her as small bit npcs that she typically plays is irrelevant to how she performed here.

3. You can have character development without writing your character to be irritating to the reader/player.

4. I agree she should have some role, but once we veered into "world-threatening" and other shards, the actual ruler should have stayed put. What a terrible ruler to plunge into a portal at just the moment your country, which needs stability, is at it's greatest period of instability. She should have stayed home and her presence following us around after her coronation is illogical to me. To me this was the biggest example of how she did not grow at all. She went from impulsive simpleton to ... impulsive simpleton. (I mean, in the level 100 quests she couldn't even count.)

But I guess we need her along to tell us over and over again that talking to 3 people in the course of 15 minutes means we will understand and remember an entire culture.

1. That's not what I said and that's not what happened. You're being dishonest, or showing that you actually didn't pay attention to the story. There are plenty of times when we prove our strength, again, such as against Gulool Ja Ja, against Zoraal Ja, and the final boss, and that's not even listing all of it.

2. Then you're a poor judge of a person's voice acting skill, your bitter opinion is discounted. If she "failed" it's because of the voice direction she was given. This obsession you have against Wuk Lamat and their is becoming apparent. Transphobia is a gross character flaw.

3. True. You can also have character while writing your character be irritating to the reader. Again, I bring up Luke from Tales of the Abyss. Neither are mutually exclusive to good writing and character development. Again showing your complete lack of authority to be judging these qualities.

4. Wuk Lamat's whole theme is that she is compassionate and rule with empathy. Her empathy for Sphene, her foil allows the main cast to succeed where normally it shouldn't have. Once again, you have ignored that Koana, the logistically excelling co-ruler is heading the defense and management of the city while she's striking out. Your inability to understand why or how only shows that either you weren't paying attention, or you don't understand that morale driving figures don't always command from the back.

It really just seems that you didn't pay attention to the story at all that I have to tell you all this. Maybe just be honest going forward.

[ZephyrMenodora]

1. That's not what I said and that's not what happened. You're being dishonest, or showing that you actually didn't pay attention to the story. There are plenty of times when we prove our strength, again, such as against Gulool Ja Ja, against Zoraal Ja, and the final boss, and that's not even listing all of it.

2. Then you're a poor judge of a person's voice acting skill, your bitter opinion is discounted. If she "failed" it's because of the voice direction she was given. This obsession you have against Wuk Lamat and their is becoming apparent. Transphobia is a gross character flaw.

3. True. You can also have character while writing your character be irritating to the reader. Again, I bring up Luke from Tales of the Abyss. Neither are mutually exclusive to good writing and character development. Again showing your complete lack of authority to be judging these qualities.

4. Wuk Lamat's whole theme is that she is compassionate and rule with empathy. Her empathy for Sphene, her foil allows the main cast to succeed where normally it shouldn't have. Once again, you have ignored that Koana, the logistically excelling co-ruler is heading the defense and management of the city while she's striking out. Your inability to understand why or how only shows that either you weren't paying attention, or you don't understand that morale driving figures don't always command from the back.

It really just seems that you didn't pay attention to the story at all that I have to tell you all this. Maybe just be honest going forward.

LOL okay champ. *pats on head*

I'm sorry you just have a hard time accepting many people dislike this character and story.

And about Twitter - take a longer look, past all the people screaming "PHOBE!!!" as a distraction to the poor quality we received here as consumers.

[NiceNox]

2. Then you're a poor judge of a person's voice acting skill, your bitter opinion is discounted. If she "failed" it's because of the voice direction she was given. This obsession you have against Wuk Lamat and their is becoming apparent. Transphobia is a gross character flaw.

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

[jumps004]

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

I have seen people call people misogynist in a post that was asking for more Krile in the expansion for also expressing their dislike for Wuk Lamat... a character that is also a WOMAN. Mudslinging really doesn't get anyone anywhere.

[Nothv13]

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

I didn't even know the VA was a trans person until I got called a transphobe for not liking the character.

[CerusSerenade]

Oh, come on, stop it with Transphobia stuff. Why do many people think that saying Wuk Lamat is not a well-made character is a dog whistle for transphobe?? Is it because of the character's English VA is a trans person? What's next? If the female voiced character gets criticized, does that make the criticizers misogynist too?

I will not, especially when I have personally seen a GREAT amount of transphobia surrounding the character and her English VA. Especially now that certain figures have attached themselves to the whole thing, there is a substantial amount of people who dislike the character for no reason other than their favorite internet personality said to for transphobic or other asinine reasons.

[Malthir]

I will not, especially when I have personally seen a GREAT amount of transphobia surrounding the character and her English VA. Especially now that certain figures have attached themselves to the whole thing, there is a substantial amount of people who dislike the character for no reason other than their favorite internet personality said to for transphobic or other asinine reasons.

Right, but the JP forum is also critical of her and it's a different VA so I kinda feel you're full of it. So while there maybe a tiny amount of morons spouting stuff, the VAST majority of the criticism has been aimed at the character not the VA, and the vast majority of the criticism of the VA has been about her not being good. The first to talk about her being trans was a game journo, almost as if they were trying to setup a scapegoat, trying to rile up the usual tiny contingent of clowns just so they can then try and brush away all the criticism about the poor quality of the VA and terrible terrible writing. I was here day 1 complaining about how terrible the story is, the initial posts talking about the bad VA went on for 2 days before anyone knew or mentioned the VA was trans. So again, you're full of it.