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  1. #1231
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    Ramiee's Avatar
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Back on topic... Boy did they really just have us pull an Emet Selch on the people of Solution nine? Like not even looking at other options or considering how the people there were not different than the omnicrons? Just a "nah flip the power switch fuck em" ????
    3 expansions final story dungeon was an apocalypse time travel thing in a row.
    I liked Alexandria but god damn can we get some variety in the story telling, there's only so many times I can see "this is where our world ended" before I start eye rolling so hard I go blind.
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  2. #1232
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    NiceNox's Avatar
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    Nox Noverus
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    Kujata
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramiee View Post
    3 expansions final story dungeon was an apocalypse time travel thing in a row.
    I liked Alexandria but god damn can we get some variety in the story telling, there's only so many times I can see "this is where our world ended" before I start eye rolling so hard I go blind.
    As long as it sells, I guess. FFXIV is the money printing cow for the square enix so, of course, they are going to utilize the tried-and-true formular as long as possible. Looking at the Japanese economy and Square Enix's profit of late, I believe that they will continue repeat this kind of story until the end of time (Don't forget, we have many reflections left )
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  3. #1233
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    Powercow Cowcow
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    Excalibur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karious View Post
    Back on topic... Boy did they really just have us pull an Emet Selch on the people of Solution nine? Like not even looking at other options or considering how the people there were not different than the omnicrons? Just a "nah flip the power switch fuck em" ????
    The problem on our end was that Sphene started a ticking clock and refused to negotiate or talk this through. A solution may have been possible, but our hand was forced early. That part is fine.

    Now, as for why Sphene did that, you see it's uh, it's... see she thought about it long and hard and uh, she... decided this was the only way. If they'd put in more effort or explanation as to why our alternatives couldn't work, this plot point may have succeeded. Or if she had legitimate reason to distrust us, because frankly the only person outside of Alexandria who screwed her people over was Zoraal, and we killed him. But they didn't feel like expanding on Sphene (yet) so we got rushed along to a nonsensical conclusion.

    Also yeah Otis at the least should have fought back against us. The dude is the epitome of the noble knight protecting his queen and country, and here we are saying "yeah we plan to defy your queen and delete your country and all its children lol" and he just rolls along with it. Also would have given us some actual gameplay during the final area with a solo instance battle, and they could have even made it a bit more interesting with the play narrator (or, ugh, Wuk) trying to play off the WoL and Otis's fight to the death as part of the play. "Alas, an Alexandrian Knight turns traitor and draws their weapon against the noble Otis!" or something.

    Edit - Actually thinking back on it the whole play sequence annoyed me. Otis even gives us a warning beforehand like "hey don't sweat it if you mess it up, it's all part of the fun" and then we're given precisely 0 options in that cutscene. Why couldn't we have some options to either go along with the story Otis wrote, or mess up our lines, or do some wacky shenanigans?
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    Last edited by Powercow; 07-08-2024 at 10:02 PM.
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  4. #1234
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    Matthius Abysswalker
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    Amaurot 3: This time it's really over.
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  5. #1235
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    Wind-up Everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Powercow View Post

    Edit - Actually thinking back on it the whole play sequence annoyed me. Otis even gives us a warning beforehand like "hey don't sweat it if you mess it up, it's all part of the fun" and then we're given precisely 0 options in that cutscene. Why couldn't we have some options to either go along with the story Otis wrote, or mess up our lines, or do some wacky shenanigans?
    I was really hoping for a solo instance where we get to beat seven kinds of poo out of wuk with the horrified/cheering children in the background.
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  6. #1236
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    Quote Originally Posted by fulminating View Post
    I was really hoping for a solo instance where we get to beat seven kinds of poo out of wuk with the horrified/cheering children in the background.
    Honestly even if it was just through dialogue options where we can choose to get a little... overzealous and smack her, it'd have been fun. Have it start off with a nice mock battle and by the end of it have WoL and Wuk actually beating the crap out of each other and destroying the set as the narrator frantically tries to play it off. "Such is the uh, the brutality of war, so let's... let's uh, move on..."

    Also unrelated but didn't Urianger make a big deal at the cabin about wanting to test himself against us in this competition, just to see how he'd fare? Did I have a fever dream and miss that fight or did the writers forget to cut that line when they decided to not have us actually fight the Scions?
    I know the answer it just makes me sad.
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  7. #1237
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    Gisela Thorne
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    If we had cut just one or two hours of Wuk Lamat to have a silly beach volleyball scene against the dads on vacation, that would have been more genuine friendly conflict we were promised than what we got.
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  8. #1238
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    Ixa X'phele
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThorneDynasty View Post
    If we had cut just one or two hours of Wuk Lamat to have a silly beach volleyball scene against the dads on vacation, that would have been more genuine friendly conflict we were promised than what we got.
    Which is extra annoying, given that the new trust glamours for Scions are beach episode ones but they don't get cannon scenes to use them for
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  9. #1239
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    Stellan Djt-dolja
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    Now that I think about it, isnt Wuk Lamat the only Tank NPC for Trusts in the dungeons for this expansion?
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  10. #1240
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    James Oakes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Y2K21 View Post
    Now that I think about it, isnt Wuk Lamat the only Tank NPC for Trusts in the dungeons for this expansion?
    I can only check up to 97 but you can have another tank for the 97 one IF you heal
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