#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Supersnow845]

Also would it literally kill you to pretend to engage with us with like you actually want to hear our opinions

You came in here guns blazing saying we are saying fuck controller, then suddenly we are also elitist raiders and that we’ve also lost respect of every other player

Would it kill you to just respond to us without peppering everything with crap like that

[HealerGuy]

WHM’s problem is it brings nothing to the table

AST is a stronger pure healer than WHM and both pure healers pale in comparison to the shield healers in terms of the type or healing that 14 rewards. Yet WHM has nothing to compensate this. Chunky pure healing is near worthless in this game and hilariously SCH can now do it better than WHM anyway. It has no non damage utility (like expedience or smudge) it has no buffs, its mitigation is weak and wonky and its damage rarely goes above anything besides SGE except fights with a large amount of downtime

Basically the problem is WHM is playing a different game. Misery being neutral sorta fixed this by making lilys proxy oGCD’s but since WHM brings nothing to the table besides its raw healing power it just doesn’t bring anything to the raid because the style of “plenary asylum temperance cure 3” healing just doesn’t exist in this game

Medica is near redundant because medica 2 only needs to tick once to do more healing than medica 1, cure 2 should just upgrade from cure 1, aquaveil and bension should just be one button and you could bake plenary into some combo of temperance, asylum and just the default potency of your skills. That frees up 4 buttons

I'm seeing a potential problem here for the pro Healer Strike people. They don't care at all about the little guy and are all elitist raiders.

[Supersnow845]

I'm seeing a potential problem here for the pro Healer Strike people. They don't care at all about the little guy and are all elitist raiders.

Once again

1) respond to our arguments
2) I’m sorry I can’t be an elitist raider, Patricia 14 posts ago told me I was a garbage casual. If you wanna throw around ad hominem attacks please coordinate with the other people so you all hit us with the same ad hominem

[Saraide]

People strike in different ways. People going into dungeons and not healing or doing their job are on your side.

How do you know they are on the striker's side and arent the kind of people who post snarky comments in here and call the people protesting against this game's healer design whiny assholes?

[HealerGuy]

I had been thinking about this since this whole thing began, and honestly I don't even want MORE dps, I just want it to be interesting, so maybe this could work well as an idea.

When you start with your 1 ability, it changes one of your cure options to a new action for dps "combo". You could do this with a 2 ability and 3 ability so you have a 1,2,3 combo sequence (obviously could vary way past my simple mind) That way, you can have an a ton of options still available to you, a true rotation, and then you can vary it at times to leave combo action 3 up and heal and then return to combo and keep your abc's between heals. It would be pretty easy to weave ogcd's between attacks also if you got practiced.

While I don't play on controller, it would at least make it to where I need to look at my abilities more and check where I am at in rotation/what healing options I have available for a given moment. Tbh, got most of this idea after playing way too much Viper recently so you can prolly see that kinda play style in this idea, I just could see it work with the framework we already have + keep it to be without adding a ton of extra buttons.

Thank you for actually answering my question, I appreciate you. I like where you're head is at (I like the new Ruin IV doing this). I thought this was all about hitting the same DPS button over and over again, wouldn't just changing the picture on the same button sequence just be the same thing?

I wouldn't mind seeing some of this though. Maybe the Cure I/II trait thing could be 100% and using Cure I automatically switches Cure II to an OGCD version with a free stack. Just spitballing. It's not a lot of extra healing but it's a bump.

[HealerGuy]

How do you know they are on the striker's side and arent the kind of people who post snarky comments in here and call the people protesting against this game's healer design whiny assholes?

They're called Chaos Agents. They go hand in hand with protesting. That's just life.

[LyraShu]

Thank you for actually answering my question, I appreciate you. I like where you're head is at (I like the new Ruin IV doing this). I thought this was all about hitting the same DPS button over and over again, wouldn't just changing the picture on the same button sequence just be the same thing?

I wouldn't mind seeing some of this though. Maybe the Cure I/II trait thing could be 100% and using Cure I automatically switches Cure II to an OGCD version with a free stack. Just spitballing. It's not a lot of extra healing but it's a bump.

I mean, if that's the case then all dps rotations are the same thing, but I completely get you. *shrug* I am not a designer so I can only offer suggestions is hopes to get to the right one. I haven't played too hard with WHM, but always heard about the "free cure bait" so that could actually make that useful!

And also, I have been a day one striker and honestly, this has been the main message from the beginning of "We are bored, please help please help, we are bored" and then we get the same thing. There are other points to the strike because it is mulitple viewpoints, but it mostly stems back to that, we just don't enjoy being bored. There have been others that flame in here saying things and, well I know I am happy to talk about points like people but when flames are burning I tend to want to put them out. I hope you have a good day and do the same for others, happy to keep spitballing also~

[HealerGuy]

Also would it literally kill you to pretend to engage with us with like you actually want to hear our opinions

You came in here guns blazing saying we are saying fuck controller, then suddenly we are also elitist raiders and that we’ve also lost respect of every other player

Would it kill you to just respond to us without peppering everything with crap like that

I have heard peoples side. I've responded to people who are actually engaging instead of "you troll", "your favorite job sucks zzzzz" or "blah blah blah raiding blah blah blah".

[Saraide]

Once again

1) respond to our arguments
2) I’m sorry I can’t be an elitist raider, Patricia 14 posts ago told me I was a garbage casual. If you wanna throw around ad hominem attacks please coordinate with the other people so you all hit us with the same ad hominem

We are in the elitist part of the loop again. Cant wait for someone to make the next google spreadsheet about how casual the entire thread is.

[TheDustyOne]

They're called Chaos Agents. They go hand in hand with protesting. That's just life.

Alright, so you KNOW that such people are intentionally causing chaos, and yet you then extend their behaviour to anyone who's NOT a Chaos Agent because it's convenient for your position rather than acknowledging that maybe they're not on anyone's side and just, well, cause chaos.