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  1. #6541
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    I guess it's safe to say the opposing side is full of people mocking our favorite job, acting like assholes and then acting high and mighty.
    I started this game as a Conjurer in ARR, having been a White Mage since FFI to the point I did the full four White Mage run in that game. The only people making a mockery of our favorite job is Square Enix, and XIV's dev team. You do NOT get to act like we're not fans of White Mage because we're disgusted by the abomination our beloved Job has become.
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  2. #6542
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    I guess it's safe to say the opposing side is full of people mocking our favorite job, acting like assholes and then acting high and mighty.
    You mean people pointing out WHM’s flaws

    All jobs are viable in casual content and all jobs are mostly viable in savage. I can rip my healer main before I dropped healers apart (SCH), it’s not mocking to point out flaws in a job. WHM is just in an awkward position in the meta for healers. Our problems with healers barely focus on the existing meta anyway but you asked for points about WHM so we gave them

    If you asked me from a strike perspective why I don’t like WHM it’s because of the glare spam and the fact that like SGE the kit lacks an internal reward system for efficient healing

    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    I have heard peoples side. I've responded to people who are actually engaging instead of "you troll", "your favorite job sucks zzzzz" or "blah blah blah raiding blah blah blah".
    So did my first comment fall into “blah blah blah raiding” because it’s hard to blow off raiding balance with job design
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    Last edited by Supersnow845; 07-09-2024 at 12:04 AM.

  3. #6543
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    Eri Battlesaint
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    You mean people pointing out WHM’s flaws

    All jobs are viable in casual content and all jobs are mostly viable in savage. I can rip my healer main before I dropped healers apart (SCH), it’s not mocking to point out flaws in a job. WHM is just in an awkward position in the meta for healers. Our problems with healers barely focus on the existing meta anyway but you asked for points about WHM so we gave them

    If you asked me from a strike perspective why I don’t like WHM it’s because of the glare spam and the fact that like SGE the kit lacks an internal reward system for efficient healing



    So did my first comment fall into “blah blah blah raiding” because it’s hard to blow off raiding balance with job design
    "Pointing out WHM's flaws" is a gross mischaracterization. I didn't read anything after that because why bother when someone is willing to lie about something so trivial within the first sentance.
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  4. #6544
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    "Pointing out WHM's flaws" is a gross mischaracterization. I didn't read anything after that because why bother when someone is willing to lie about something so trivial within the first sentance.
    So the only acceptable stance to you is “WHM is flawless”

    Hmmm yes what a developed way to interact with a forum

    I don’t see what you intend to get out of this, you won’t engage with people who are trying to talk to you properly, you act defensive when people call out comments like this and then you deflect all the problems you have experienced around other healers to the strike and when people try to explain why your ideas that WHM is flawless is wrong you immediately plug your ears and either pretend it’s raiding which you don’t care about or an attack on the little man

    I have no idea what your goal is here
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  5. #6545
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    You're literally ruining people experience in a new expansion (30 minutes queues for DPS at times) over a tantrum. That's what the healing strike is viewed as and everyone else if correct. I hope you all feel good about yourselves.
    Oh noooo... people don't like a job, so they don't play that job, they should be forced to play that job they don't like, oh noooooo.

    If Square wants me to play healer again, they can make healers fun to play again. We had those DPS kits we supposedly "don't have room for" back then and did fine. We liked that we had to perform that balancing act between damage and healing rather than spamming Broil. For all your tantrums about how we're "mocking jobs", you yourself are mocking what people found fun in the past.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  6. #6546
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    Oh noooo... people don't like a job, so they don't play that job, they should be forced to play that job they don't like, oh noooooo.

    If Square wants me to play healer again, they can make healers fun to play again. We had those DPS kits we supposedly "don't have room for" back then and did fine. We liked that we had to perform that balancing act between damage and healing rather than spamming Broil. For all your tantrums about how we're "mocking jobs", you yourself are mocking what people found fun in the past.
    "You're ruining our expansion experience by *checks notes* not ruining the expansion for yourself!" How dare we.
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  7. #6547
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    Like this. Healing strikers = mocking peoples jobs and making fun of them. That is the Healing Strike. Thanks Isala for proving that.

    You're literally ruining people experience in a new expansion (30 minutes queues for DPS at times) over a tantrum. That's what the healing strike is viewed as and everyone else if correct. I hope you all feel good about yourselves.
    Huh? I thought people were mocking the people striking in this thread for how nothing has changed in game with the queues? Which is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orinori View Post
    Aren't you the same Saraide who makes every savage pf blacklist you because you can never do a mechanic correctly and constantly causes enrage wipes? Pretty ironic to read this lmfao

  8. #6548
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    "You're ruining our expansion experience by *checks notes* not ruining the expansion for yourself!" How dare we.
    "Get back in the queue you worthless healer!" "Haha, Scorch go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr."
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

  9. #6549
    Player Isala's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDustyOne View Post
    "Get back in the queue you worthless healer!" "Haha, Scorch go brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr."
    I mean, all joking aside, I AM still playing my healers, even as god awful as they are. I just play them for friends instead of randos, just as my friends do the same for me. Which, considering how the anti strike side has been behaving, explains a lot about why there's a complaint about queues. It's the complete lack of friends, you see.
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  10. #6550
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    I mean, all joking aside, I AM still playing my healers, even as god awful as they are. I just play them for friends instead of randos, just as my friends do the same for me. Which, considering how the anti strike side has been behaving, explains a lot about why there's a complaint about queues. It's the complete lack of friends, you see.
    I think the only reason I kept them levelled after ShB was because of glamour. The pretty VFX was the main reason I would play AST over the other healers. At this point however, I just can't be bothered with them anymore, they're not fun, and no amount of glamour is going to make me spam Malefic and Broil for 8 minutes straight in trials/raids or Art of War for 15 minutes in dungeons.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE
    Healers have been neglected for 3 expansions now and this needs to be rectified with the following:
    1. An engaging DPS kit beyond a nuke and DoT.
    2. Increased incoming damage so we have more to heal.
    3. Distinctive playstyles amongst the healers.
    4. Some nerfs to non-healer heals, we shouldn't be replaceable.

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