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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    I tanked my way through DT, wasn't really different then EW. But I am warrior so....
    I mean yeah, warrior is another kettle of fish. But I needed a healer for every other tank. And warrior needs healers for raids. It doesn't have as much mitigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Seppy View Post
    I mean yeah, warrior is another kettle of fish. But I needed a healer for every other tank. And warrior needs healers for raids. It doesn't have as much mitigation.
    SE needs to take some notes from Blizzard on the tank and healer problem. Blizzard figured out the problem and is actively fixing it. SE is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    SE needs to take some notes from Blizzard on the tank and healer problem. Blizzard figured out the problem and is actively fixing it. SE is not.
    So is the issue really just with warrior then?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    SE needs to take some notes from Blizzard on the tank and healer problem. Blizzard figured out the problem and is actively fixing it. SE is not.
    *laughs in Blood DK*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Seppy View Post
    I mean yeah, warrior is another kettle of fish. But I needed a healer for every other tank.
    Anecdote, but with good DPS, I ended up doing most of a couple dungeons without a healer on DRK. Was dicey keeping the DPS alive and I did have at least one DPS with AoE heals each time, but between DRK's invuln providing a full heal, some trash kiting, and everyone dodging, we squeaked through trash and the first couple boss fights each time while healer was afk and couldn't yet be replaced.

    On Warrior, though, I've little doubt that would have instead been basically absent of stress.

    _________

    On healer, the DT dungeons felt like they required even fewer GCD heals, if anything, on the tank during trash (no at-cost heals if tank was competent, few if they mismanaged CDs) and no greater amount on DPS from unavoidable boss damage.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 07-24-2024 at 04:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Seppy View Post
    Haven't bothered to read the 763 page essay about this but I am interested. Since Dawntrail has come out, we've had time with two EXs, dungeons and normal raids.

    How do the healers who originally went on strike feel about the new content? Because when I healed them I felt satisfied. I can understand both points of view from Endwalker content but I wanna know if anyone's opinions changed or if you feel the same?
    I haven't bothered leveling a healer after being disappointed with them the last couple expansions. And from what I can gauge by both playing the encounters and viewing the statistics from the logs, it's just more of the same. You are still spamming Glare 3 or the equivalent for the vast majority of your time playing. And they didn't even BOTHER to give them a visual upgrade this time lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I haven't bothered leveling a healer after being disappointed with them the last couple expansions. And from what I can gauge by both playing the encounters and viewing the statistics from the logs, it's just more of the same. You are still spamming Glare 3 or the equivalent for the vast majority of your time playing. And they didn't even BOTHER to give them a visual upgrade this time lmao
    That's fair. Healer dmg rotations are incredibly boring, and well.. not even really rotations it's just one or two buttons and one for movement
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    I haven't bothered leveling a healer after being disappointed with them the last couple expansions. And from what I can gauge by both playing the encounters and viewing the statistics from the logs, it's just more of the same. You are still spamming Glare 3 or the equivalent for the vast majority of your time playing. And they didn't even BOTHER to give them a visual upgrade this time lmao
    Wdym, you don't like your flowery Medica III that has absolutely nothing to do with their untouched Lily Gauge? lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol_Seppy View Post
    How do the healers who originally went on strike feel about the new content? Because when I healed them I felt satisfied. I can understand both points of view from Endwalker content but I wanna know if anyone's opinions changed or if you feel the same?
    Not much changed. I first cleared the MSQ on BRD but I heard so many people raving on and on about how DT fixed healing and I saw the healers struggling in my ex1 clear.

    So I levelled my SCH and healed every piece of DT content at least once. I still spend most of my time mashing Broil, I still don't have much of a reason to press my GCD heals, the healing requirements still aren't enough and the damage rotation is still ungodly dull.

    The only notable improvement is the lack of body checks so far, so my preferred style of recovery healing is seeing some importance again and I can drag bad teams across the finish line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aravell View Post
    Not much changed. I first cleared the MSQ on BRD but I heard so many people raving on and on about how DT fixed healing and I saw the healers struggling in my ex1 clear.

    So I levelled my SCH and healed every piece of DT content at least once. I still spend most of my time mashing Broil, I still don't have much of a reason to press my GCD heals, the healing requirements still aren't enough and the damage rotation is still ungodly dull.

    The only notable improvement is the lack of body checks so far, so my preferred style of recovery healing is seeing some importance again and I can drag bad teams across the finish line.
    Thank you for answering. I did personally see a slight Improvement in terms of needing healers (aside from warrior in only dungeons) having leveled all healers and tanks, I don't think Aurora or abyssal drain personally give enough sustain to keep me alive without a healer in dungeons and it's a waste using clemency midpulls and harder content 100% needs healers to clear, but whether it's enough or not is up to the healer mains I guess.
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