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  1. #6361
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    Basteala's Avatar
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    Basteala Thayne
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    FF14 is the first MMORPG that I haven't mained a healer in, I started as a healer and dropped it because there just wasn't any healing to be had. Switched to a Tank main and haven't gone back to healing outside of when my wife wants to go tank.
    Oh I used to be SCH main for a time, and ended up rolling onto Black Mage. In a lot of ways, BLM pushes the fight knowledge and situational awareness in a way that I would have expected healers to be asked to do.

    It's just a shame because healers stop being fun once you "figure them out".
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  2. #6362
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    Flora Kosaki
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Basteala View Post
    Oh I used to be SCH main for a time, and ended up rolling onto Black Mage. In a lot of ways, BLM pushes the fight knowledge and situational awareness in a way that I would have expected healers to be asked to do.

    It's just a shame because healers stop being fun once you "figure them out".
    BLM is my main DPS class, I love it.
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    #FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

  3. #6363
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    Nekhii Qestir
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    Kraken
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    Botanist Lv 100
    I'm not reading through 640 pages, but as someone who had issues with healing being too easy in Endwalker, I really like the dungeons and trials so far in Dawntrail. They actually made them fun to heal.
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    Isala Zuntrios
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    Adamantoise
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PorxiesRCute View Post
    I'm not reading through 640 pages, but as someone who had issues with healing being too easy in Endwalker, I really like the dungeons and trials so far in Dawntrail. They actually made them fun to heal.
    Trials, yes. Dungeons are still a snoozefest.
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  5. #6365
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Black Mage Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    Trials, yes. Dungeons are still a snoozefest.
    Expert dungeons are a little better.
    But I expect after the raids come out and crafted/normal raid gear comes out the slightly interesting healing will become typical dungeon healing (the tank does the healing for you.)
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  6. #6366
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    Eri Battlesaint
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    Brynhildr
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Do you hate the petty healers on healing strike?
    Do you think the healers that come in only to raise and never heal are lame lame-O's?
    Are you a DPS who waits 30 minutes to queue up only to have a healer screw you over and think that's pretty weak?
    Do you need a healer for quick queues?
    400K per run and I'll come heal for you!!

    Why pick me? Because I'll play the game like an adult and do my job (healing)!!
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    Last edited by HealerGuy; 07-06-2024 at 02:41 AM.

  7. #6367
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    Grainne Gothram
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    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    Do you hate the petty healers on healing strike?
    Do you think the healers that come in only to raise and never heal are lame lame-O's?
    Are you a DPS who waits 30 minutes to queue up only to have a healer screw you over and think that's pretty weak?
    Do you need a healer for quick queues?
    400K per run and I'll come heal for you!!

    Why pick me? Because I'll play the game like an adult and do my job (healing)!!
    You ought to increase the price this early on with a double DPS expansion. You can get away with it right now.
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  8. #6368
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    If I didn't care about doing roulettes I'd just heal as BLU so I can play one of the only fun jobs left in the game. No need to pay me, no need for AIN bonus.
    (1)
    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

  9. #6369
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    Adela Skychaser
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    Lamia
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    Dancer Lv 93
    Quote Originally Posted by HealerGuy View Post
    Do you hate the petty healers on healing strike?
    Do you think the healers that come in only to raise and never heal are lame lame-O's?
    Are you a DPS who waits 30 minutes to queue up only to have a healer screw you over and think that's pretty weak?
    Do you need a healer for quick queues?
    400K per run and I'll come heal for you!!

    Why pick me? Because I'll play the game like an adult and do my job (healing)!!
    If you think our complaints are so petty, then why charge people to heal for them? I mean, if you have to be bribed to do your job, then clearly, it must be something you can't enjoy very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by ninjasoldier014 View Post
    (snip)
    This is the part where we're supposed to pretend that healing parties blind-running the first dungeon of a new expansion in min-ilvl gear is representative of the state of healing as a whole in the entire game.

    Instead of, y'know, pointing out that the exact same thing happened in EW and ShB, before healing went right back to 211111111 spam the instant people were geared up.

    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyQueen View Post
    Why would anyone give healer a try when it is so braindead that a chimpanzee that is blindfolded could do it.
    I think even the chimps would feel their intelligence to be insulted by the role.

    Quote Originally Posted by aiqa View Post
    You'd think that would have send a message a long time ago. While it doesn't tell SE what is wrong with the role (they can look at the healer subforum for that), it does clearly show something is wrong. For years.

    But maybe SE just twisted that message into something completely backwards. Like: players must really hate playing healers, we better make sure healers have to heal as little as possible.
    I can absolutely believe this. Yoshida saw the healer numbers going down, checked the JP forums, saw no complaints about the role, ignored the NA/EU forums entirely, and concluded that healing must still be too complicated, and it needed to be dumbed down more. Because he doesn't actually play healer (he mains BLM), and because he kicks good healers from the internal testing team, he has no idea how braindead boring the role is.
    (13)
    "Once upon a time, you were the based healer, who could carry any tank through the largest of pulls! Now you're just here because the Duty Finder said you have to be." - Lucy Pyre

  10. #6370
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    I understand that far in the past, the game couldn't handle too many statuses on anything. So combining that with Arcanist tomfoolery and putting like 5 DOTs per player on enemies until the system couldn't even keep track of them all was silly and a problem. (I'm specifically referencing the cross classing days)

    I also understand that DOTs have seemingly been slowly removed from most gameplay because they are seen as making a job too busy or complicated somehow.

    But we've mostly fixed the status effect issues as far as I'm aware and I just have to ask: can we have DOT spreading tools? Arcanist dot spread was so fun. As I understand it, SGE now has something that plays with the DOT but it's also a new expac ability? Whee.

    I feel like every healer, much earlier in the MSQ, would benefit from a DOT spread ability just like we would benefit from very slightly earlier access to AOEs. As it stands, admittedly, I like having to make the very small and easy but nonetheless undeniable decision when running and dotting things with my Tank when it's time to stop and move to AOEs or healing. It's not much lmao. But when it happens all I can think is, dang it, I wanted to get my DOT onto a few more enemies.

    That's when I usually weave a paralysis potion onto an enemy or something in ARR content cause I have nothing better to do.

    Why can't energy drain refresh my DOT or something?
    I would genuinely still take a healer rotation of 1111121111 if the buttons changed contextually or proc'd things. Just give me a 3 hit combo on 1-1-1 and make it interact with my DOT or something already.
    (1)
    it/its - 14 accessibility is bad, ease of access is not accessibility, jobs are boring. Transphobia ruins real attempts at criticism and it's whack.

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