Request: I don't want to solo the main scenario

[Dragon]

Go ahead for the love of Pete. People still play Eq1, you want to ruin your entire game because of one expansion? Abandon it and try to mold the casual one, and yes actually FFXIV is supposed to be a more casual oriented FF Online, it never was intended to replace FFXI.

Instead of moaning here, why do you not go back to FFXI and moan there where you actually want to be? Where maybe they'll listen to you and release content you'll be happy to grind through? But no of course not, let's do like all the disastisfied players (WoW I'm looking at you) not happy with their current content, go to another MMO and whine on their forums on how much it's not like that other MMO they used to play and love but chose to abandon instead of continuing to support that and give those devs this feedback that actually belongs there and not to the new MMO with a whole other vision and purpose.....

/phew *wipes brow*

Except for the fact I tried twice to go back since Abyssea was released. The fact is the player is pigeonholed into doing everything the easy way, it's almost impossible to play FFXI the way it was before Abyssea.

Since other people are allowed to move on, so can I. Since other people are allowed to want the game shaped their way, so too I am. So get your head out of your self-righteous ass, there are more than enough MMORPGs out there to make room for a few less-than-casual MMORPGs.

[Hyrist]

In the end, there are two major flaws in the arguing sides of this thread.

The first is "I want hard battlels that I will remember from days to come, and these easy fights are ultimately leaving me unsatasfied."

The second is "I do not want the core my (continually paid)content restricted by a difficulty determined by a niche minority of players."

A fact check for all of you. NEITHER ONE OF THESE PERSPECTIVES ARE WRONG.

If you truly wish to create a solution that is best for everyone, then arguing between on another is not the correct means of moving forward. Instead, you should be united in the idea to push the developers for choice. Some of the most successful single player RPGs to date come with a difficulty slider - why can this not be achieved in the Massive Multiplayer World's controlled instances? Flatly, it should be fairly easy to do.

The second flaw here is that all other periferal concerns such as more dynamic fights or scripted battles is a type of feedback that should be given to the developers regardless of the actual difficulty. Such things can make the hard fights feeling more dynamic and the easy fights easier.

I swear that some of you are bickering with each other just for the sake of bickering.

[Dragon]

**for others that actually debate, please skip this post**


nice mature response..., were having a discussion here, pros and cons. I played im sure more FFXI than you, but yes LIKE SOME OTHERS we are just saying and asking why going back to FFXI, like when you said it FFXI exist... why force FFXIV to be a clone.

I guess it is for people like you still butthurt that FFXI there little second life is dead and evil SE is not giving you a new life called FFXI-2 or aka FFXIV...


i edited your post, i think it is more proper like this:

"Can you just NOT leave one single MMORPG alone? Go playFFXI or whateverpre-Abyssea and just leave FFXIV alone. Damnit. "

go cry me a river or something dude

My response was quite mature, thank you.

But thanks for proving all you want is everyone to cater your self-righteous wants.

[Dragon]

In the end, there are two major flaws in the arguing sides of this thread.

The first is "I want hard battlels that I will remember from days to come, and these easy fights are ultimately leaving me unsatasfied."

The second is "I do not want the core my (continually paid)content restricted by a difficulty determined by a niche minority of players."

A fact check for all of you. NEITHER ONE OF THESE PERSPECTIVES ARE WRONG.

If you truly wish to create a solution that is best for everyone, then arguing between on another is not the correct means of moving forward. Instead, you should be united in the idea to push the developers for choice. Some of the most successful single player RPGs to date come with a difficulty slider - why can this not be achieved in the Massive Multiplayer World's controlled instances? Flatly, it should be fairly easy to do.

The second flaw here is that all other periferal concerns such as more dynamic fights or scripted battles is a type of feedback that should be given to the developers regardless of the actual difficulty. Such things can make the hard fights feeling more dynamic and the easy fights easier.

I swear that some of you are bickering with each other just for the sake of bickering.

It's funny you mention choice.

Player 1: I want open-world HNMs with...
Player 2: NO!
Player 1: But...
Player 2: I SAID NO!
Player 1: Why not?
Player 2: Because I don't wanna have to compete / I don't want any drama / etc.
Player 1: But what about choice?
Player 2: lolololzchoice... introduce HNMs and <insert stupid reason>!!!1o1nes!11!!!1llllllllllll

Or how about open-world content in general? Again, casuals don't want... even when they do get their little instances.

[Hyrist]

Dragon, you've been on my ignore list for a reason, don't try to pretend that your arguments are anything less but heavily abrasive. And often are the root cause for many unnecessary, heated debates. It takes two to tango, but one has to lead the steps.

Remember, your viewpoints, while a valid opinion, is a minority. And such demands should be made under the understanding that your position, if not handled correctly, could ruin the experience of far more people than just those in your own camp.

Ignoring that is what turns your own arguments against yourself in calling people 'entitled'.

Instead of being confrontational, this conversation should be about the details that could be addressed to help both camps. Less polarization and attacking, more "How can we make this work for everyone?"

[Cendres]

My response was quite mature, thank you.

But thanks for proving all you want is everyone to cater your self-righteous wants.

I want everyone to have fun and get the content they'd like to play. I am not the one who is being self righteous over here. This game is meant to offer an experience that encompasses more then XI did. This will never, ever change. If it did you best be prepared for what that means, and what it means isn't what you want either.

[Medved]

I want everyone to have fun and get the content they'd like to play. I am not the one who is being self righteous over here. This game is meant to offer an experience that encompasses more then XI did. This will never, ever change. If it did you best be prepared for what that means, and what it means isn't what you want either.

His comments was directed at me, you can rest easy :P

[Dragon]

I want everyone to have fun and get the content they'd like to play. I am not the one who is being self righteous over here. This game is meant to offer an experience that encompasses more then XI did. This will never, ever change. If it did you best be prepared for what that means, and what it means isn't what you want either.

Really?

You're not being self-righteous by telling me that I should go back to FFXI so you can have this game shaped how you want it?

[Felis]

As far as more difficult battles: That's entirely subjective to skill. I know firends that have been at Ifirit and GKM and still haven't beaten either. Should Storyline quests be a dead-end feeling for people as well. CoP had many many many complaints about the difficulty and was adjusted three times before the level cap was ultimately removed from those fights. I have good memories of overcoming the challenge, but I also have intensely bad memories of having to gather the people needed for the fight - and the incredibly elitist mentality players would up having towards those fights because of the difficulty.

Sorry, but the Thread is about the main story quest. Primal fights are not part of these.
It's about things like: Form a party with 2 other players, go to the black shroud, kill 2 wolves, finish (Of Men They Sing)
I don't want something like this, I want something more difficult

[Zaaku]

Dragon, you've been on my ignore list for a reason, don't try to pretend that your arguments are anything less but heavily abrasive. And often are the root cause for many unnecessary, heated debates. It takes two to tango, but one has to lead the steps.

Remember, your viewpoints, while a valid opinion, is a minority. And such demands should be made under the understanding that your position, if not handled correctly, could ruin the experience of far more people than just those in your own camp.

Ignoring that is what turns your own arguments against yourself in calling people 'entitled'.

Instead of being confrontational, this conversation should be about the details that could be addressed to help both camps. Less polarization and attacking, more "How can we make this work for everyone?"

Actually according to the recent poll thread YOU are in the minority. There are more people on these forums playing the game right now that want HARDER content and increasing the leveling time.