#FFXIVHEALERSTRIKE

[Rolder50]

I wonder why it is you're continuing to pay to play a game you seem to dislike so much. Games should be fun, and if they're not fun, why would you continue to pay at least 13USD/mo just to be miserable? There are millions of games out there to play. Surely there's at least one you will enjoy.

Or healers could just, you know, play a different role. AKA the whole original point of this thread.

[Veil_Lord]

Or healers could just, you know, play a different role. AKA the whole original point of this thread.

No it wasn't. They're entitled to their opinions, but the original point was to whine because they didn't like changes being made to the game. Changes that they're judging based solely on the end result and have zero insight into the deliberative process that went into that outcome becoming final. You can see this because their proposed solution is basically to punish all the people who have absolutely no agency over the the outcome.

When you have a game the size of FF14, with millions of people playing all over the world, you're never going to make a change that pleases everyone. That's just a fact. You could have millions of pages of paper that is nothing but people saying they want a specific change, and someone somewhere will still claim that "nobody wanted that change!" Or go on ad nausem in melodramatic fashion about how that change is ruining the game. It is a phenomenon you can see applied all over the place, not just FF14. Look at Microsoft Windows and how every time Microsoft makes some change, there's always people complaining about it. Usually by people who couldn't even code a hello world app if their life depended on it. They have zero understanding of how the sausage is made, but that doesn't stop them from thinking they're an expert. Now, if the OP or some of the others complaining have worked on a MMORPG like FF14, I'll be much more willing to listen to what they have to say, otherwise theirs is not even a the equivalent to a single grain of sand in the Sahara compared to the millions of people worldwide that Squeenix is trying to make a game for. Some people are going to love the changes, others will hate them with a burning passion, most will probably be indifferent. If people think they know what will make for the perfect MMORPG, there's nothing stopping them from developing their own and putting it out there. I suspect pretty early on anyone who tries this will come to have a much deeper respect for the FF14 dev team. Everything's easy when you're playing armchair quarterback.

Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

[SpiralMask]

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Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

I curse thee with "playing only healer from level 1-100". enjoy glare, it will be your one and only companion in your career.
REALLY enjoy those dramatic and immersive story instances where you cast glare, and glare, and glare, while the opponent cannot out-damage a single errant OGCD, so you have no threat or challenge. have some endgame content where your healing output is worthless, because any damage is solved by a single spell or skill, and any actual mistake from anyone instantly kills the party or renders it a fail-state that demands a wall, rather than any means of dragging it back.

[EusisLandale]

I curse thee with "playing only healer from level 1-100". enjoy glare, it will be your one and only companion in your career.

They couldn't even be bothered to make it a new animation this time either to give a brief "ooo shiny" period. Exciting stuff.

[Bellsong]

No it wasn't. They're entitled to their opinions, but the original point was to whine because they didn't like changes being made to the game. Changes that they're judging based solely on the end result and have zero insight into the deliberative process that went into that outcome becoming final. You can see this because their proposed solution is basically to punish all the people who have absolutely no agency over the the outcome.

When you have a game the size of FF14, with millions of people playing all over the world, you're never going to make a change that pleases everyone. That's just a fact. You could have millions of pages of paper that is nothing but people saying they want a specific change, and someone somewhere will still claim that "nobody wanted that change!" Or go on ad nausem in melodramatic fashion about how that change is ruining the game. It is a phenomenon you can see applied all over the place, not just FF14. Look at Microsoft Windows and how every time Microsoft makes some change, there's always people complaining about it. Usually by people who couldn't even code a hello world app if their life depended on it. They have zero understanding of how the sausage is made, but that doesn't stop them from thinking they're an expert. Now, if the OP or some of the others complaining have worked on a MMORPG like FF14, I'll be much more willing to listen to what they have to say, otherwise theirs is not even a the equivalent to a single grain of sand in the Sahara compared to the millions of people worldwide that Squeenix is trying to make a game for. Some people are going to love the changes, others will hate them with a burning passion, most will probably be indifferent. If people think they know what will make for the perfect MMORPG, there's nothing stopping them from developing their own and putting it out there. I suspect pretty early on anyone who tries this will come to have a much deeper respect for the FF14 dev team. Everything's easy when you're playing armchair quarterback.

Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

All that just to end with "lol just unsub"? Alright lemme update the sign...

[CrimsonGunner]

No it wasn't. They're entitled to their opinions, but the original point was to whine because they didn't like changes being made to the game. Changes that they're judging based solely on the end result and have zero insight into the deliberative process that went into that outcome becoming final. You can see this because their proposed solution is basically to punish all the people who have absolutely no agency over the the outcome.

When you have a game the size of FF14, with millions of people playing all over the world, you're never going to make a change that pleases everyone. That's just a fact. You could have millions of pages of paper that is nothing but people saying they want a specific change, and someone somewhere will still claim that "nobody wanted that change!" Or go on ad nausem in melodramatic fashion about how that change is ruining the game. It is a phenomenon you can see applied all over the place, not just FF14. Look at Microsoft Windows and how every time Microsoft makes some change, there's always people complaining about it. Usually by people who couldn't even code a hello world app if their life depended on it. They have zero understanding of how the sausage is made, but that doesn't stop them from thinking they're an expert. Now, if the OP or some of the others complaining have worked on a MMORPG like FF14, I'll be much more willing to listen to what they have to say, otherwise theirs is not even a the equivalent to a single grain of sand in the Sahara compared to the millions of people worldwide that Squeenix is trying to make a game for. Some people are going to love the changes, others will hate them with a burning passion, most will probably be indifferent. If people think they know what will make for the perfect MMORPG, there's nothing stopping them from developing their own and putting it out there. I suspect pretty early on anyone who tries this will come to have a much deeper respect for the FF14 dev team. Everything's easy when you're playing armchair quarterback.

Bottom line: You don't like the changes being made? That's completely fair. However, if it bothers you to the point that it seems to bother some people here, I'm just left wondering why they continue to pay for the privilege of being made miserable. It's a video game. It should be fun to play. If it is not fun for you, then that should be a sign that you need to move on to something else. Most of us only have a few precious free hours a week, so why spend any amount of that time being miserable? Surely they can find something else to play and/or spend their money on that will provide them with enjoyment instead of frustration.

bottom line: your ass hurt cause they provided feedback and others agree to it and you cant stand it.

reason for their "whine" ,simple they love the game, love the aspects of healers, love their main job they playing(or rather used to) and wish it would be better.

went over your head? well tough

[Veil_Lord]

bottom line: your ass hurt cause they provided feedback and others agree to it and you cant stand it.

reason for their "whine" ,simple they love the game, love the aspects of healers, love their main job they playing(or rather used to) and wish it would be better.

went over your head? well tough

That's certainly one way to interpret things. A completely batshite crazy way, but a way.

I don't really give a toss. All I'm saying is that if people are this butthurt (to use your terminology) about things, maybe they should find something else to do. Why pay just to be miserable? There's two basic reasons for it: The first is you're not actually upset, you're just looking for attention, and the second is that it hadn't (yet) occurred to you that you have a choice. The former are trolls, while the latter now have been put on notice that they do have a choice. They don't have to keep paying for the privilege to play a game they don't enjoy. No one should be doing that, period, regardless of what the game is. There are literally millions of other games out there to choose from, surely there's at least one that you will enjoy playing. This isn't the 80s and early 90s when you might get 1 new game every month so you had to play the crap out of each one. Just about everyone probably has a backlog of games that would take longer to complete than they will be alive. No point wasting any time on a game you don't derive enjoyment from. Find something else to play, or read a book, watch something on TV, go out and see a movie, go bowling, whatever makes you happy. If you don't enjoy hitting yourself in the head with a ball-peen hammer... STOP DOING IT. How difficult is that?

[CrimsonGunner]

That's certainly one way to interpret things. A completely batshite crazy way, but a way.

I don't really give a toss. All I'm saying is that if people are this butthurt (to use your terminology) about things, maybe they should find something else to do. Why pay just to be miserable? There's two basic reasons for it: The first is you're not actually upset, you're just looking for attention, and the second is that it hadn't (yet) occurred to you that you have a choice. The former are trolls, while the latter now have been put on notice that they do have a choice. They don't have to keep paying for the privilege to play a game they don't enjoy. No one should be doing that, period, regardless of what the game is. There are literally millions of other games out there to choose from, surely there's at least one that you will enjoy playing. This isn't the 80s and early 90s when you might get 1 new game every month so you had to play the crap out of each one. Just about everyone probably has a backlog of games that would take longer to complete than they will be alive. No point wasting any time on a game you don't derive enjoyment from. Find something else to play, or read a book, watch something on TV, go out and see a movie, go bowling, whatever makes you happy. If you don't enjoy hitting yourself in the head with a ball-peen hammer... STOP DOING IT. How difficult is that?

i agree your way of interpret things is batshite crazy and as expected of you it went over your head and reach jupiter by your logic and understanding.

well tough for you dude if you don't get that explanations and also how difficult is go do something that is fun for you?

well it simple, the strikers did said they leaving healers to have fun (in other roles and jobs) but i guess that point never crossed your mind.

i guess its cause you just view two options be your healer(heal slave) or perish from the game but no one told you there is C the other option where they don't leave the game, give feedback why they are leaving their loved roles and then go play a different role in the same game that will be fun for them.