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  1. #5461
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    Gullis's Avatar
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    Gullis Hil
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kohashi View Post
    End game raider, okay, the vast majority of FF14 player base is casual. Savage is maybe 10% (if that) and ultimates represent maybe 1-2% at best.

    I was High end raider in the previous game that I played, and I went into savage as soon I finished MSQ, what is keeping you back? For sure not all the fun you have in trash dungeons.
    I did savage in EW as ast, and healing is not much better there. Savage difficulty is just about solving mechanics. It didn't really challenge me as a healer, as it's still the same 1 button spam, with some ogcds you throw out whenever the game throws out an raidwide.
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  2. #5462
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    Lucaon Soho
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    I mean, I've been a Savage raider here, too. Recently, it's been kinda hard to be a Savage raider when there's some... Let's call it IRL drama... keeping you away from the things and people you love. I'm sure you can read between the lines on that one.

    But also... It's not like even Savage changes the formula. Still just as predictable, easy to deal with damage, and the same single damage spell spam. Doesn't change the core fact that healer design is in the dumpster.
    Which tier have you cleared?

    Abyssos broke me on release, especially P8s and Anabessios was a purgation hell with min ilvl, even though the mechanics were easy. HH with 640 was.. something else, let's say.
    As for your personal life, sorry to hear that. hopefully, you can sort it out fast .

    Edit:
    "I did savage in EW as ast, and healing is not much better there. Savage difficulty is just about solving mechanics. It didn't really challenge me as a healer, as it's still the same 1 button spam, with some ogcds you throw out whenever the game throws out an raidwide."

    And I assume you got a 99 score in terms of DPS or am I wrong since it seems you were breezing the mechanics? How hard can it be to press a button no?
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    Last edited by Kohashi; 06-28-2024 at 05:39 AM.

  3. #5463
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    Rolder50's Avatar
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Anyone got the collection of graphs that shows how many times healers are using their filler for each expansion?
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  4. #5464
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    Pencho Gipsa
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rolder50 View Post
    Anyone got the collection of graphs that shows how many times healers are using their filler for each expansion?
    So far I have only seen this: https://kultur.jp/ff14-healerstrike/
    You can scroll down and see numbers in screenshots.

    IMPORTANT! I do not know and cannot vouch whether these numbers are correct or not, just sharing a finding.
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  5. #5465
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    Reinha's Avatar
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    Odin
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    Last edited by Reinha; 08-23-2024 at 07:07 AM.

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  7. #5467
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    Kaeya Alberich
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    Cole Evyx discusses the bland DPS of healers in his latest video on SE disabling sage's dot stacking and also talks about how he agrees with the healer strike on that point:
    https://youtu.be/wmnsFgembmI?t=114

    It's a big concern of his to convey to players of other classes where the problems with healers' current one-button DPS lie in his video. Regardless of differing opinions I think it's very good that he really emphasises this issue on a broader platform.
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  8. #5468
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    You were close. Out of curiosity I searched all threads in General Discussion with more than 1000 posts and only these have more than 369 likes:
    I enjoy how one of those links is the original "Healers Complaining" thread. That they have ignored.
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  9. #5469
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    Freddy Foreshadowing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Isala View Post
    PFFFFFFFFFFTT! You serious? The same devs that designed 1.0, because they "clearly knew better". This dev team does not have a great track record of making good decisions for their playerbase. Look at the condition of Viera and Hrothgar, and tell me that this dev team makes design choices for clear reasons. The same dev team that had to nerf Ninja because players found a better rotation. The same dev team that had to buff AST after telling people for MONTHS that they just didn't understand AST.

    Also, who are these imaginary try hards who will yell at you for dropping a DoT? Cause you're out here making up enemies to fight in your head just like you're making up a quality dev team.
    I wonder why it is you're continuing to pay to play a game you seem to dislike so much. Games should be fun, and if they're not fun, why would you continue to pay at least 13USD/mo just to be miserable? There are millions of games out there to play. Surely there's at least one you will enjoy.
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  10. #5470
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    Alarasong Elaha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veil_Lord View Post
    I wonder why it is you're continuing to pay to play a game you seem to dislike so much. Games should be fun, and if they're not fun, why would you continue to pay at least 13USD/mo just to be miserable? There are millions of games out there to play. Surely there's at least one you will enjoy.
    Or healers could just, you know, play a different role. AKA the whole original point of this thread.
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